Many in the PUA/Seduction community may be of the opinion that Socialkenny loves to start shit, open old wounds which have already been healed, fan flames…
Hopefully this article doesn’t stir shit up once more, since 70 % of the coaches listed are my buddies, with half of whom I chat and do business with.
On the bright side; I’m virtually plugging all you dudes: so be appreciative!
Drum roll please!!!!!
TenMagnet (Chris Shepherd) vs Paul Janka
Back in 2008, PUA dating coach, Tenmagnet of the Love Systems dating company, went on a rampage about Paul Janka’s appearance on the Dr. Phil show, insinuating that PJ is a fat liar for claiming that he’d slept with 134 women, he doesn’t have Game, and it’s only his good looks which get him by, and that he’s a bad role model for the PUA community.
Tenmagnet (of Vancouver) went on to say that Janka clearly doesn’t understands women, and that he creeps them out. He ends it off by bashing PJ’s attraction formula model.
Paul Janka of Attraction Formula, never officially responded, but he took some indirect shots at Tenmagnet on an episode of the Pick Up Podcast Show with the Harbingers, saying that certain coach has been acting catty with soap-opera drama on blogs and stuff. Download interview part 1 and part 2.
You can read 1 of Tenmagnet’s inflamed blog post here: My problem with Paul Janka.
Paul Janka on the Dr. Phil show talking about his life as an NYC playboy.
Paul Janka live street pick up.
Love Systems’ PUA coaches, Cajun and Tenmagnet on Sex Matters.
Speer vs LoveDrop
While out sarging and looking to pick up chicks in Miami South Beach, Speer (an Israeli PUA) of The Project Hollywood/Project Miami Crew, alleged that a hammered and high LoveDrop smashed his car into the back of Matador’s (a fellow PUA coach for Venusian Arts).
Lovedrop promised to repay Speer, but he came to find out that LD was actually broke, yet putting up a front as if he was making money from coaching.
Speer claims he never got repaid to this day a cent of the $10,000 for damages.
Lovedrop never publicly responded.
Speer picking up girls in Miami.
LoveDrop teaching KINO escalation (how to touch girls).
Julian Fox vs Styles (Neil Strauss)
Back in 2008, a then up-and coming pick-up artist coach out of NYC, Julian Foxx, made the ultimate challenge: he called out the PUA guru, Styles of Stylelife Academy (also the author of “The Game”), to a sarge off (a challenge at who could pick up the most, or hottest girls).
Julian said after analyzing Styles’ Game, he just could’nt believe that this guy (Styles) was capable of picking up chicks (or more than he could).
Styles publicly backed down from the challenge and deferred Julian to challenge the PUA godfather, Mystery instead.
Word circulated that Julian had AMOG’d and pulled a chick from Mystery at a bar, and walked out with her on his arms.
A feud over what really happened that night ensued. One party calling the other fraud and washed up.
[Below: Video of Julian calling out Styles for a pick-up challenge/sarge off].
[Video below: Styles on the Jimmy Kimmel show; gaming Jessica Alba].
Mystery vs Savoy
According to a top coach in the community, after Savoy, the leader and founder of the Love Systems PUA group, won the disputed settlement against Mystery, that he (Savoy) was awarded legal ownership of “The Mystery Method brand (founded by Mystery), Mystery was so pissed and hell bent on sabotaging Savoy, that he planned on hacking into the company’s records in order to get a hold of
Students’ info, in order to steal customers away from Savoy.
[Video below: Savoy and Love Systems crew on a Fox News report, doing live pick up in a bar].
[Video below: Mystery on his VH1 Pick-Up Artist reality TV show, along with coaches Matador & Tara]
[Video below: Mystery in-field at a club showing his seduction skills].
JTR vs VK Vince Kelvin
Earlier in 2012, Cassanova Crew’s leader and founder, “JTR”, on an episode of his PUA podcast show, ranted that VK robbed him(financially) out of a business deal, used him in order to steal students over to the Project Hollywood Crew [and that’s least of the fraudulent accusations]. Download the episode Here.
This got pretty ugly when JTR alleged that VK was in rehab in pretty bad shape trying to seduce the social worker to his last breath.
VK responded by physically threatening JTR and his crew via series of voice mails.
To add fuel to the flame, VK and Speer created an online crew dubbed “The Real Cassanova Crew”, essentially tried to paint JTR’s Casanova Crew as a copycat.
[Video below: VK hanging out being outrageous as usual].
Erika Awakening vs Entropy PUA (Mark Manson)
Mark, wrote a barrage of blog posts bashing America (I don’t blame him), before relocating to Colombia (on business) and touring the globe.
BUT Erica Awakening refutes that claim, and says that Mark is actually running away from her instead, i.e. a “real woman”, in which Entropy couldn’t handle.
Erika went on to say that he defrauded her and basically tried using her for sex.
PUA Hate, as usual, stirred shit up by reporting that Erika had dumped Mark, or that he got rejected by her after attempts to reconcile.
Mark feeling heart-broken, started lashing out at Erika for refusing to get back together (according to the PUA Hate forum).
You can check out Erika’s article where she bashed Entropy PUA: Mark Manson running from America.
[Video below: Erika Awakening gives a talk at a Pickup lair].
[Video below: Entropy PUA aka Mark Postmasculine, speaks about approach and social anxiety]
Alan Roger Currie vs Justin Wayne PUA
Alan, the seduction/dating coach over at Blog Talk Radio (Atlanta), conducted an interview with NYC’s dating instructor, Justin Wayne PUA, about his Game and famed Domino Effect theory of picking up women.
All went well (so it seemed), until the interview-release date kept being pushed back.
After the anticipated released, Justin noticed that a lot of what he said was omitted, and he thinks that Alan unfairly cut him off and didn’t give him sufficient time to dialogue.
This spun out into a whole controversy on JW’s blog as to who was at fault.
Alan eventually extended the olive branch: “Justin, I am sorry you felt that you were not given enough time to speak. I cannot say that I 100% agree with that. I ended up doing a 3-hour episode, and compared to other guests on my show, you had a lot of opportunities to speak”.
The flame seemed to have died down recently.
You can check out the post/interview here: Alan’s interview with Justin.
[Video below: Justin Wayne assesses how to take girls home].
[Video below: Justin talks about his ground-breaking “Domino Effect”.]
Ross Jeffries vs Mehow
Mehow claimed that Ross is just attention seeking and looking to self promote off his name, and that Ross has been editing his (Mehow’s) guest posts on his (Ross’ site).
Mehow went further to challenge Ross to a sarge off [PUA contest at who can pick up the most chics], but claimed Ross turned down the proposal.
Ross upped the ante by making a Youtube video portraying Mehow as Hitler.
However, Mehow took the high road e-mailing Ross saying:
“There are pickup companies that don’t help people at all, have instructors with almost no experience at all, sell techniques that never ever work…yet somehow, every other post on your PUA Fraud its all about me … You are attacking a guy
with just insinuations (because that’s all you have) … a guy who’s central message is “Be
Social”. You use hypnosis on girls to get yourself laid (and from the demo you gave me when we hung out 4 years ago I believe it works).
A defiant Ross went on to bash Mehow however.
But it seems like the beef has been squashed.
[Video below: Mehow making out with a nurse at a party].
[Video below: Mehow kissing girl infront of her boyfriend].
Aaron Sleazy vs. VK Vince Kelvin
The ever so controversial Sleazy went at Vince on his blog [Picking up women with sleaze], claiming that VK could only manage to pick up fat and undesirable girls, UG’s (ugly girls), and that he creeps out the girls he approaches.
Aaron doubled down on the low-blows, claiming that the PUA heavy-weight, VK picks up underage girls (via his infield videos).
This Vince-trashing went on for few weeks, as Sleazy wrote about 3 subsequent articles dedicated to his disdain for VK.
Aaron eventually lost a lot of credibility in the seduction/seduction community for his VK-bashing.
Unverified word is that Vince had challenged Aaron to sarge off (pick up challenge), which he refused (allegedly).
[Video below: VK picking up black girl at a clothing store].
You can read the VK-trashing article here by Aaron Sleazy: Vince Kelvin makes a complete fool.
JTR vs Ross Jeffries
Earlier this year on his bi-monthly PUA podcast show, PUA promoter/instructor “JTR” of California’s Casanova Crew, went at Ross of Speed Seduction pretty relentlessly, alleging that Ross was talking shit about him recently in the community.
Rippa (JTR) claims that Ross is disgruntled and pissed that he was excluded from, and not invited to speak at the PUA Summit, and decided to take it out on him.
Also that RJ kept e-mailing him begging to be a speaker for Casanova Crew.
Ross fired back saying that JTR is selling dick-enhancement pills to community guys.
Feud went back and forth between Ross and the entire Casanova Crew. However, it seems like the beef has ended (for now), since RJ had spoken at a few PUA events since.
[Video below: Ross teaching how to arouse women].
PUA-Hate vs David Deangelo
This treacherous rumor sparked a lot of outrage throughout the community on many forums and PUA lairs: perhaps PUA Hate has went over board this time.
Compounded by all the pressure and backlash, they apparently removed the scandalous-forum post.
David D hasn’t publicly responded [the community’s outrage was enough I guess].
Many felt that PUA Hate had sunken to an all-time low with this accusation.
[Video below: David D teaches attraction]:
Speer vs Matador
Matador said that Speer was never a pick-up coach for Venusian Arts, and he was just claiming so to bolster his credentials in the community.
Speer got pissed at Matador for insinuating that he wasn’t good enough to coach students.
You can download that episode here: Speer’s interview.
[Video below: Speer shows how to do “social-circle Game” at a party]:
Sinn vs David Wygant
PUA heavy-weight Sinn, of Sinns of attraction, has been on a Twitter rampage over the years where he bashed other instructors.
DW replied to a blog post on Sinn’s site:
“you are very good at
making assumptions without ever speaking personally to me.
You have my email……I don’t hide on posts behind fake names. Do you want to talk and learn what I am about feel free to contact me in my office”.
Eventually, an enraged Sinn challenged DW to a physical slug-fest: old-school style.
DW rebutted and called Sinn an immature asshole starting a disturbing beef.
[Video below: Sinn along with dating coach PUA Psych, messing with some girls during night game street pick up].
[Video below: Sinn talks about “attraction-switch theory”].
Mack Tight vs David Wygant
The drama between the PUA instructors Sinn & DW steamrolled onto Mack Tight of E-Seduce.
DW charged Mack Tight as a childish instigator and sidekick follower for suggesting he fight Sinn in an amateur-boxing match.
Mack Tight went on to rant that DW is a PUA community flip-flopper.
You can read that article by Mack Tight here: David Wygant is a PUA flip-flopper.
[Video below: David Wygant in-field street pick up with his students].
[Video below: DW demonstrates hot to meet hot women by being playful and goofy].
Krauser PUA vs AFC Adam Lyons
Krauser, a PUA instructor, took some shots at fellow Londonite, top PUA coach, AFC Adam of Attraction Explained.com Blog, earlier this year on Krauser’s PUA blog, blatantly calling Adam’s popular Entourage-Game Method BULLSHIT!
He went on to discredit the amount of girls Adam claimed to have f-closed: virtually calling him a liar.
The claims caused a lot of uproar in the pick-up community (also boosting Krauser’s rating in Google under the search term AFC Adam).
Many surmised that he was just looking to take down Adam and elevate himself in the UK.
Nothing much seemed to have resulted from this feud however.
You can read the entire article here by dating coach Krauser PUA: Entourage game is for suckers.
[Video below: Speer interview AFC Adams and his wife, AFC Amanda about pickup]
[Video below: AFC Adam picking up girls on the streets].
Rob Judge & Zack Bauer vs RSD Nation
Now,RSD alleges that Rob stole their Social Dynamics Material and repackaged it as his own invention.
Some RDS members on their forum, have been calling for PUA guru Tyler Durden(RSD’s leader and founder) to sue Rob Judge.
However, Tyler surprisingly responded that he cares little about the supposed thievery, and that he wishes all PUA companies would stop bashing each other.
The feud subsequently died down, but the flames were fanned by the controversial guys at PUA Hate, as they dubbed Rob Judge as a guy who steals PUA material from everyone.
[Video below: Tyler Durden (leader of RSD) picking up chics while not in the mind frame to].
[Video below: RSD Tyler talks about the secrets of staying confidence]
Brad P vs Nathan PUA,Psych & Heartwork
Rated the world’s best PUA coach(by many), Brad P of The 30-30 Club Forum, back in 2010 decided to take a controversial jab at the 3 rookie coaches when he accused them of treating newbie students like shit, and that Psych was never a coach @ PUA Training.
Brad P also claimed that the trios’ students were being ignored while the coaches got hammered drunk at venues and ultimately refused to refund them.
Also, that Nathan PUA roughed up a student (Forever Drake) at the PUA Under 21 Conference 2011 (for aspiring PUA’s who are unable to enter nightclubs for over 21).
Brad P pulling his authoritative strings called for Nathan PUA, Psych and Heartwork to retire from the community (at least for a stint)!
Many felt that he was out of order for policing the community.
No public rebuttal was given by either coach as to Brad P’s accusations.
PUA Psych takes over a Mexican restaurant in NYC.
Thundercat (Joseph Matthew) vs Twenty Six (Barry Kirkey)
This one is pretty ugly, as Kirky went on a rampage on this PUA show, calling Thundercat fat, and any other fat-synonymous word you can find under the sun.
Kirky upped the ante by releasing Thundercat’s real name (which isn’t Joseph Matthews), and other personal info during his show.
Thundercat shot back by calling Kirky a racist, and went further to address him in a Youtube video
Once again: no mal intentions by this post.
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Or go to the post: Vote your favorite PUA coach 2012