So…Do Krauser PUA & Steve Jabba Have A Feud Going On?

Krauser PUA & Steve Jabba


I’m somewhat confused about a possible feud between these 2 Londoners who were close buddies as late as a month ago.
What could’ve happened that caused this tight couple to sour?

Days ago, something told me to visit Krauser’s bigoted site.

I flipped through a post or 2, and 1 particularly caught my eye, where Nick Krauser seemed to have been taking shots at other pick-up coaches…via innuendos.

Here’s an excerpted screenshot from that article.

I honestly had not 1 iota of inclination to believe that Krauser was taking shit about his best buddy in Pickup: Steve Jabba.

As I read through the comments, someone posted a comment saying something to the effect of Steve Jabba being a traitor or something.

I didn’t pay much mind to it, and thought it was nothing but an anonymous troll trying to start shit.

Scrolled down and came across a reply from Steve Jabba himself (below).

In Steve’s defense, it appeared that Krauser was the one who took the first indirect shot.

Krauser is known for soft-attacking many fellow seduction coaches. So I wasn’t a bit surprise to say the least.

However, this brewing feud did catch me off guard since it was Steve Jabba and Krauser, who recently launched an attack on Mannish aka Deepak Wayne, the Indian pickup instructor, calling Deepak a big fraud for claiming that he fucked 40 something girls in 2 weeks or something to that effect.

Here’s the article on Steve’s PUA blog where he attacked Deepak:

Is Deepak Wayne a Jedi-Master sith lord PUA?

Here was my take/response on that whole fight between those guys: https://kennyspuathoughts.com/2016/09/16/nick-krauser-pua-london-day-game-model-vs-deepak-wayne-justin-wayne-dating-company-the-feud/

The double team attack by Steve and Krauser against Deepak was a clear coordinated effort.

Those 2 guys have always collaborated, whether for good or bad.

In fact, I recall both of them working on a pickup product together some years back.

It was Steve’s product featuring Krauser PUA.



In spite of all that, I’m not quite sure how this will pan out.

Some have suspected this might be a joint-publicity stunt by both guys in order to promote some novel pick-up product.

We’ll have to watch and see.

Steve I were, and probably still are good friends. I helped him build his Twitter following over 5 years ago before my original Twitter account got sacked by Twitter due to a bunch of feminists reporting my stuff. Steve and I also collaborated on some pick-up marketing stuff. So there’s positive history between us.

If you guys have any added info on this feud, feel free to leave them in the comment section.

Although I have my issues with these 2 guys (their politics), I respect their Game. 

I leave you with 3 instructuanal videos from Steve Jabba, the London-based seductionist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb0V4hshqKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNz_IgdukU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlFsfru6Mc

Nick Krauser PUA [London Day-Game Model] Vs Deepak Wayne [Justin Wayne Dating Company]…The War

Krauser PUA (left), Deepak Wayne (right)


How long has it been since we had a good dose of PUA politics and drama?

A damn long time!

I caught wind of this new fight when I tentatively decided (yesterday) to browse SlutHate, just to see whom they were blabbering about now.

Before I get into it, for those who are outside of the pickup community, who aren’t privy to PUA politics and stuff, the London Day-Game Model, is essentially a PUA company which includes instructors such as Krauser and Tom Torero (a good buddy of mines).

The Justin Wayne Dating Company, is also a PUA company, based in New York City, and ran/founded by Justin Wayne.

Justin Wayne



Each model and PUA company has its own form of pickup, which all stems from to the original old-school seduction/pickup formats/methods.

Back on August 30th, Nick Krauser, the now controversial Day-Gamer out of London, took shots at Deepak Wayne, an Indian-born pick-up instructor, who operated out of New York City, under the tutelage of my buddy, Justin Wayne of NYC.

Here’s the article from August 30th, on Krauser’s PUA blog, where he calls out Deepak on his claims of banging 15 new girls in 1 month (in Kiev).

Is Deepak Wayne a fraud?

As of late, I have a bone to pick with Krauser over the ALT-Right, Neo-Nazi, ultra-Islamaphobia rhetoric which he’s gone public with over the months.

Many seem to believe that Krauser is a racist. And they have great reasons to believe that since he’s public with his hate rhetoric. And I guess I can’t hate on him for that, because at least he’s public with his racism: anti-black, anti-Indian, anti-Arab and anti-muslim proclamations.

I’ve been wanting to tackle Krauser PUA over the last 10 months on this (his “anti-anything that isn’t white” bigotry). But I just never got around to it…and I won’t exactly get into it here. So I’ll stay on message here.

In spite of Krauser’s racist position; I’ve always been a fan of his, and we’ve always been cordial and somewhat cool! In fact, when the whole Manosphere thing kicked off around 2009, Krauser and I were the only legitimate PUA bloggers and practitioners among the bunch of writers.

Additionally, Krauser was actually the one who encouraged me to start making/recording infield videos of my pickup. So he and I have history dating back to 2009. It’s sad to see that he’s now fallen into this racist frame as of late, facilitated by global politics, immigration issues, ISIS and what have you. Krauser seems to think that the white race is on the verge of extinction due to mass migration of refugees from Syria, Iraq and parts of Africa. But something tells me that this is just an act on Krauser’s part.


How can you be racist against so-called minorities, including blacks, yet you game, pick up and sleep with scores of black African women in England [Krauser that is], you favor Mexican women and those of Latin America.

Not to get too deep into US presidential politics [not that I ever mine], but I think that Krauser is pulling a Donald Trump, by indirectly pandering to White Supremacist sentiments; not because he actually shares their ideologies and racism, but just to secure their vote and following. But I don’t for 1 minute believe that Trump, nor Krauser, is racist or hateful towards non-nationals and migrants to their countries. But they pander to people who harbor such feelings.

Okay, so enough of Krauser’s pretend racism, though it was an issue I’d been wanting to get off my chest nearly a year now.

On September 2nd, Krauser doubled down by taking another shot at Deepak Wayne, accusing him of making faked-infield videos.

Deepak Wayne – Analysis Of His Fake Infield

In light of all that, my buddy, Justin Wayne, along with his former PUA student (now instructor), Deepak Wayne, struck back, with an attempt to destroy Krauser and the London PUA scene.

In any case, the whole argument boils down to this: Krauser thinks Deepak is lying about the number of girls he sleeps with.

A few excerpts from Krauser’s post.

Compounding Krauser’s belief of that (that Deepak is lying on his dick and lays), is because of Deepak’s ethnicity: he’s Indian, with a heavy-Indian accent, and he’s butt-ugly, yet he’s fucking all these white chicks across Europe!

Krauser just finds this impossible!

On top of that, Krauser believes that Deepak either uses actresses in his videos just to make his pickups look official. So Deepak’s rebuttal is to clear all this up.

In my opinion, Deepak’s videos have always seemed genuine. I don’t doubt Deepak’s skills to pick up women.

Do I feel that Nick Krauser is hating on Deepak Wayne out of jealousy?

Possibly!

You have to remember that in Krauser’s world, white women don’t fuck Indian men.

However, Krauser fails to take note of 1 of the most important insight in the Game of pickup: Game trumps looks!

Krauser seems to insinuate that Deepak is too ugly to be getting laid.

If that’s the case, then Krauser should come clean and say that “looks totally matter, and nothing else does”, going contrary to everything that pickup teaches on looks.

In any case, I am a fan of both guys (in spite of Krauser’s fake racism in order to milk as much readers as possible from every crevice of the internet).

Interesting to see how this will all blow over. But according to those incel sacks of shit virgins over at SluHate, Deepak had challenged Krauser to a sarge off in Germany.Germany


In other words- or non-PUA jargon- Deepak was going to buy Krauser’s ticket to Germany, in order to challenge him in a sarge off: a contest of who could pick up the most chicks [that’s the definition of a sarge off].



Word is: Krauser backed out.

Deepak’s basically saying, if Krauser believes that he has no game, and that his pickups (videos) are staged and faked, then he (Deepak) challenges Krauser to witness him live in action, and try to out-game him.

Sarge offs in pickup is sort of common among pick-up coaches. If one coach calls out another, they settle it in a sarge-off duel.

Almost 4 years ago, I had a huge feud with PUA instructor, Steve Mayeda aka El Topo, who had “attempted” to call me out to a sarge off, in which he claimed that I turned it down. I had to clear that up when I blasted him in the following article.

The demise of a washed-up, disgruntled PUA, El Topo Loco aka Steve Mayeda

I set the PUA community ablaze when I’d published that article back in 2013. I lost tons of friends and business partners in the community, due to PUA politics. But I found it necessary.

However, I wasn’t the only one in the seduction community who had issues with El Topo (Steve Mayeda).

Back in 2008, the PUA guru, Nick Savoy, a friend of mines, took shots at El Topo for various reasons, such as stealing PUA routine stacks (pickup lines, etc) and marketing them as his own.

Read: El Topo: When instructors go bad…part 2

As for the latest round of PUA feud between instructors: Deepak and Krauser, even over at the antifeminist blog, they wrote a post about this, questioning whether Deepak indeed could’ve fucked 25 (Ukrainian) girls in 50 days.

Is Deepak Wayne the real deal?

Be as it may, it would be interesting to see these 2 PUA heavyweights go at it in a sarge off (pickup duel).

I leave you with 2 infield (hidden-cam) videos from Krauser. The fact that he routinely picks up black chicks, kills the racist angle which Krauser seems to want to promote in order to appeal to white nationalists across the globe.

I also leave you with a video from Deepak Wayne, 1 of which Krauser believe was faked.

Another video from Deepak, about his journey from computer programmer to pimp.

For shits and entertainment, if you want to read 1 of the most controversial post in pickup history, check out this article of mines which dates back to 2012.

Greatest PUA fights of all time

I almost got sued twice for that article, once by the biggest scumbag in pickup, Brad P, who had his lawyer contact me, in pursuit of slander and defamation from me, on behalf of his client.

On a final note, there’s nothing too terrible about a little PUA drama every now and then. Too many guys in the community have this SECRET animosity and hatred towards each other, where they bottle up for years upon years. This PUA company hates the other and so forth.

It was shocking to all of us to see a recent photo emerged of RSD Todd (posted by Todd), and PUA community founder, Mystery, hanging together.

Erik Von Markovik (Mystery), founder of the PUA/seduction community. Right: RSD Todd, dating coach for the RSD company


We all know that RSD, the pick-up company, hates the Venusian Arts pickup company (now “the 3 Second Rule” Company). And the guys (coaches) from both respective companies haven’t spoken in over 10 years due to PUA politics which were well documented in the PUA Bible aka “The Game”. But that’s all for another time.

In the meanwhile, the battle continues raging between London Daygame Model and the Justin Wayne Dating company.




Some PUA Tough Love


I received a message through my FB page from a young guy saying that he got rejected the previous night at a nightclub, and he wanted to know if I sometimes have nights like those where I get deflated due to rejections.

I answered him below.
[His message in gray. Mines in blue]

There is no such thing as failure/rejection!

Every night out in the field is a learning experience!

I don’t view my nights as awful based on the reaction of 1 or many women. So “NO”- I do NOT have awful nights in the field!

That is the frame you want to adopt: there is no such thing as a bad night!

Honestly, it irritates me whenever I receive such questions from guys who should know better.

I posted the following status to Facebook days ago.

I remember years ago, Sinn, the PUA instructor, went on a Twitter tirade, pissed over being inundated with newbie questions on common sense issues. At that time, I couldn’t comprehend why a PUA coach would lambaste newbies and respond to them so dickishly. Fast forward to the current times where I’m often inundated with messages from newbies, I often times get really annoyed and even angered at some of the game-related questions I get asked. It’s like, “Dude, don’t you have a fucking brain in your head in which to use common sense to answer your own fucking question!!!? Why would you even need to ask me such a question that a 5 year old could’ve comprehended, handled and taken action upon!!!?
Perhaps I’m being a huge dick, and just maybe- maybe- I don’t get it. But I now realize why coaches in the game develop this cranky, short-patience edge when it comes to handling questions from grown-ass men who can figure their own shit out!!
No wonder one of Jared Psych Laurence ‘s coaches (Nathan PUA) had to choke out a newbie student many years back @ an NYC bootcamp. The shit gets overwhelmingly frustrating @ times to have to show, tell and teach grown-ass men, how to virtually slide their dick into a vagina with the lights on! All in all; I don’t mine answering complex-game questions in relation to game, women, texting, etc. But don’t ask me any lame shit like, “what do I say next”, when you have a brain @ your disposal to answer that shit!!!!
#PUARant

Listen- truth is- I don’t mine answering complex questions on Game. I don’t even mine handling the basic stuff of Game. But when you’re faced with a situation that requires mere common sense, that will not go over well with me, nor does it with other advanced PUA’s and coaches.

On the old MPUA Forum, there was a rule which went something like this: no one- no newbie or student of the game- was allowed to ask any question without having tried a solution first, or without firstly exhausting the answers given by the advanced guys in the question forum on the forum. So essentially, you were barred from asking dumb questions which were either already answered, or require a common sense approach for an answer or solution.

Those who were guilty of asking (dumb) questions, were banned!

Example of a dumb question in game:
“A girl’s been ignoring my text messages. What should I do”?

The answer is clear: freeze her the fuck out! Stop texting her…until some days, weeks or months have elapsed!

This should be common sense! Girl ignores you? You don’t chase!

As far as the guy at the top of the post who had asked me about getting blown out repeatedly at the club, I find it to be rather dumb to ask what should be done. And I also found it to be as equally dumb to ask if I ever get blown out (rejected) and so forth.

I know any would-be follower of my method means well. But a bit of tough love every now and then is necessary to keep these guys in the right frame of mind.

The Anti-Cold Approach Insurgency In The Community + Failure-To-Success Ratio As A Stupid Argument For Being Anti-Cold Approach

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Kenny the pick-up artist cold approaching hot girls...getting phone numbers

Akin to the current-political climate in the presidential race in the United States, where there’s an insurgency, particularly on the side of the GOP, but both political sides for that matter, there’s also a quasi-insurgency taking place within the pick-up world.

The key difference here is that unlike the folks in America who have legitimate reasons to feel angry and rebellious, those among the pick-up community who harbor this anti-establishment sentiments (being anti-cold approach) have no argument at all…unless one considers blowing hot air a legitimate reason to moan and wail.

About a day ago on Facebook, I got into a heated debate with 1 such guy among the pick-up world [Chris Bale] who’s notorious for being anti-cold approach.

What prompted me to post a slew of statuses in relation to cold approach (advocating it) was a spineless post I encountered from Chris Bale, where he took direct shots at Mystery and UK Beckster over a pick-up event which those guys were planning to pull off in Eastern Europe somewhere.

Chris has since un-friended me so I’m unable to access his original post in order to post it here.

Anyway, this guy goes on to trash cold approaching while advising women that if they’re approached by someone who seems to be a PUA, they should run for the hills.

The fact that this guy comes off as so anti-PUA yet still decides to hover around the PUA community, isn’t just hypocrisy at its apex, but guys such as Chris Bale constantly plays both sides by being anti-pickup (establishment), yet leeching off of establishment ideas, methodology, terminology and the likes.

Therefore, they find it profitable to remain in pickup while simultaneously trying to gin up an anti-PUA wing which fosters hogwash ideas such as cold-approach pickup is useless, baseless, regressive, manipulative and a blatant waste of time.

I mean, knocking cold approach from within the pick-up community, is like a mathematician finding fault with the most basic and rudimentary sound principles of Mathematics: such as 2 + 2 equal 4.

Cold approaching women is to pickup, what fitness training is to an athlete.

It’s the bare-expected minimum yet an integral undertaking to keeping the athlete in tip-top shape.

Furthermore, and to be as simplistic as can be, the principle of cold approaching is like cheese on a pizza. Without the cheese, it just cannot be called a pizza since the cheese holds such an integral significance to what a pizza is.

As a way to get Chris’ perspective on his anti-cold approach stance, I tagged him in the following post by literally calling him out.

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Chris: I believe I did ask you directly about your stance on the matter but you acted all cuntish because you had no plausible case.

I then went on to shed further light on cold approaching and why it is practical and logical, and anything contrary from it, would be preposterous and regressive in nature and how we live today.

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As I cited in the post, the biggest talking point of those in pickup who oppose cold-approaching is that approaching random women on the streets (or anywhere for that matter) yields a dismal success rate, hence it should be scrapped altogether because it’s useless.

This has got to be the worst fucking case one can attempt to make in any facet of life for that matter!

It’s akin to saying that because someone fresh out of high school will have failed more on his-her hunt to finding employment, he or she should just throw in the towel on finding employment, to hell with the application process, screw approaching employers and managers of certain establishments, etc. “Why go along with this bullshit of seeking a job when I’m going to be shot down 99% of the time”!?

That is essentially the asinine mess being peddled by the cold-approach naysayers whenever they regurgitate garbage such as “because you will have failed more in approaching women, you should give up altogether in approaching women since the failure-to-success rate is dismal”.

Well- from that viewpoint- we need to break the saddening news to every soldier in training, that he ought to quit the military because he won’t become an expert marksman in his first week on the range, and he will have missed more targets dead on than hit. Thus, learning to use a rifle in the event of battle, is just a waste of time buddy.

How fucking absurd!

No one does that!

No one thinks that way [at least no sane person does]!

In every facet of life; failure is the prevailing reality!

In fact, you will never reach a point to where failure becomes nonexistent, no matter how proficient you become in that field!

A marksman or a deadly sniper will always miss his targets, regardless of the mastery level which he had attained by taking out enemies from a great distance.

Likewise in pickup in the context of approaching random women on the streets.

I am a self-proclaimed master pick-up artist (credits to my students for also lauding me with the title) 😉 .

Does that mean I don’t fail and that I never get rejected by women because I’m a master at this?

Of course I still get rejected and have many so-called failed approaches!

Who doesn’t!

Michael Jordan lost games!

Being a master shouldn’t and doesn’t denote failure-proof.

Every great-professional boxer has losses on his record [barring a few in history]. Do those loses diminish their greatness and masterful abilities in the field?

They sure don’t.

Hence, there will never come a time where quote-unquote “failure” will just be a thing of the past…even for the best of us.

In addition to that, I went on to further make the point to another cold-approach opponent and denialist, a friend of mines actually, just to illustrate how ridiculous it is to assert that since one fails more in cold-approach pickup, it is indicative of its uselessness.

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As always the case, these guys don’t have a valid point because their approach to the game is from a position of skepticism wrapped within a low-value frame .

Among the fray of comments from the anti-cold approach crowd, I did enjoy to hear reason coming from a guy who’s been in the pick-up community on a coaching level for a while now: my buddy Dan Silverman.

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I want to conclude this short article by further making a case for why cold-approaching women is practical and feasible.

If you’re unfamiliar with Pickup community jargon, “Cold Approach”, as the name suggests, is approaching random women, particularly on the streets.

Every pick-up artist who has ever lived, cold approached women.

A PUA who doesn’t cold approach women is like a boxer who doesn’t throw jabs at all.

It’s just unheard of!

Why do PUA’s cold approach?

1.) Doing so forces the pick-up newbie to face his greatest fear…approaching women.

2.) To get the women we desire. If you don’t approach; you don’t get the girl.

Quite simple when you look at it.

Now, the thing is, at least from the talking points of the naysayers within the pick-up world such as Chris Bale, they say that because a PUA will have gotten rejected by the bulk of women he approaches, this reality invalidates cold approaching and renders it useless altogether.

What these guys are actually saying in other words, is that they expect to get a positive reaction from every girl they approach.

A negative reaction- such as a rejection- would be intolerable and unacceptable.

Moreover, if these guys aren’t getting 100% of the girls they approach, then approaching girls period, is a gross waste of fucking time!

That is essentially, and literally the position that these clowns are espousing!

With that, they ignorantly neglect to take into consideration that failures and rejections are part of the game as they are factors of life!

These guys know this! But they elect to be contrive and intentionally misleading, if not for any other reason, just to appear different and to give the impression that they are cut from a different cloth!

At the end of the day, every guy who gets into pickup, is well aware, or at least taught in no uncertain terms by his pick-up tutor, that he will fail more than he wins.

Failure would mean rejection or failure to get phone numbers, dates, etc.

Wins would mean securing numbers, getting dates, sex, etc.

The reality is: you will get rejected way more than not; especially if you’re at a pre-intermediary level!

However, a dismal-success rate in the field of game, shouldn’t negate and overshadow the positive successes whenever they do happen.

For example, a PUA may hit the streets with a specific target in mind: approach 15 girls today in hopes of securing some phone numbers which will hopefully lead to dates and sex.

Having such pick-up goals does not at all wield results into existence.

The PUA may have just managed to get 1 phone number of the 15 girls approached that day.

By running those numbers, someone on the outside is inclined to opine that 1 in 15 is TREMENDOUSLY AWFUL!!!

Sure! In a game of basketball or any other undertaking which is largely based on the points system.

However, that 1 phone number may have resulted in a date and or sex.

Would you still see this as a failure because the PUA had approached 15 girls that day, got rejected by 14 yet managed to make something happen with 1 of them?

Your perception on failure in such a case may very well be flipped when weighing the benefits of guy getting to stick his pecker into some poon-tang, albeit 1 poon out of 15.

You’re not going to beat yourself up about the 14 other missed opportunities and rejections!

Shit- you might not even remember those girls anyway, because the significance of that 1 win largely outweighs the 14 so-called loses!

Hence, it all boils down to perception: you can interpret rejection and a lackluster failure-to-success ratio in Game to mean waste of time. Or you can see it for what it actually is; the fewer successes hold more weight in your reality. And furthermore, rejections don’t exist [just as a caveat]!

Therefore, instead of focusing on the so-called failures, put more stock on the wins and progresses.

As you get better in pickup, 1 in 15 success-to-failure rate will ultimately even out, ala my approaches and averages.

If I were to approach 15 girls in an attempt to pick them up, I am bound to get about 13 numbers on a good and usual day.

Kenny the pick-up artist cold approaching hot girls...getting phone numbers
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On a horrible day, I am liable to pick up 8 out of 15.

When I first started out in pickup many years ago, I failed 15 in 15 times to pull, just as every other guy who first started out in this!

However, if I were like those clowns such as Chris Bale of Masculine Intent, I would’ve taken those so-called rejections to mean that I’m wasting my time, throw in the towel on it all, and crawl back into my shit hole of self-loathing, and accept the fate of my dating life as being futile and shitty!

These guys are PUA flunkies, pretenders and phonies who are just bitter fools looking attention while leeching off of PUA students just to make a buck.

Every guy under my tutelage as he will have accomplished his aim, leaves with a winner’s mentality; not a bitter quitter’s mentality.

On that note, I leave you with these videos from across the pick-up establishment world on the topic of cold-approaching women.

The video directly below is from my buddy RSD Max from Austria.

Video directly below is from my buddy Alex Social, from the outback of Australia.

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