Dubbed the most hated guy in the PUA/Seduction community, the Mexican PUA promoter/organizer/instructor out of California, also founder and leader of The Casanova PUA Crew: J The Rippa.
Rippa is my man. And since I’m no stranger to controversy in the community, we have that much in common at least LOL. So I’m gonna post 3 of his show’s episodes which I enjoy the fuck out of [and you may too]!!!
In this episode of The Rippa Show, JTR calls up PUA coach/former VH1′s Pick-Up Artist contestant Kevin Feng, to grill him about game, pickup and how he was able to get on VH1′s Pick-Up Artist reality show few years ago(to learn pickup).
Foreword: For many around the globe, they’re just beginning their first Fall semester of school, and it could be pretty scary even for the guys who have had a year or 2 under their belts. This article serves as a guideline to getting yourself into the right frame/mindset for meeting girls at college/uni’.
Hey guys, I have been away for a while; moving to a new place and starting college, chasing new dreams of becoming a teacher.
In this blog entry, I will be going into the subject of … College Game.
And how to make the best-first impression you can, which hopefully results in you picking up some hot-college girls on the way.
College and universities are great places to meet and pick up women.
Usually students ages range from 17 to 35-ish. So ages here to cover you young chasers or milf hunters lol (Ken!!).
You need to start as you mean to go on. By this, I mean the impression you leave.
Quick example, my college class has 90% females and I’m loved by every single one. Not because I’m the greatest looking guy in the world, but because they think I’m kool, laid back and know how to have fun.
From day one I was having jokes with everyone, engaging every one as a group (which should be done), similar to gaming at night, and the set has to be engaged to reach your target.
I feel it is more important to engage everyone at college because women’s bitch shields come out in abundance, we all know women talk and the environment is a regular one where faces will be regularly seen.
Your attitude is key!
• You need to be dominant but to a certain degree.
• You need to have strong opinions.
• Conversely, You need to listen to others, because being strong and a good listener demonstrates higher value.
The fact you cannot be toyed with easily but listening to others shows you’re laid back.
• Have your voice heard!
• Showing that you’re interesting is vital too.
This doesn’t mean to bore people verbally. But having things to do and chat about on your breaks as when being asked what are your plans for days off ,etc.
I roll in a few minutes late sometimes as I go to the gym early in the mornings [depending on people hogging certain weights: I may run late].
The fact that I train early before school time, for some reason seems to interests them and they admire what I do.
Many in the PUA/Seduction community may be of the opinion that Socialkenny loves to start shit, open old wounds which have already been healed, fan flames…
Hopefully this article doesn’t stir shit up once more, since 90 % of the coaches listed are my buddies, and half of whom I chat with occasionally.
On the bright side; I’m virtually plugging all you dudes, so be appreciative!
Drum roll please!!!!!
TenMagnet (Chris Shepherd) vs Paul Janka
Back in 2008, PUA instructor, Tenmagnet of Love Systems, went on a rampage about Paul Janka’s appearance on the Dr. Phil show, calling PJ a liar about his claims of banging 134 women, insinuating that he has no Game, and it’s only his good looks which get him by, and that he’s a bad role model for the PUA community.
Tenmagnet went on to say that Janka clearly doesn’t understands women, and that he creeps them out. He ends it off by bashing PJ’s attraction formula model.
Paul Janka of Attraction Formula, never officially responded, but he took some indirect shots at Tenmagnet on an episode of the Pick Up Podcast Show with the Harbingers, saying that certain coach has been acting catty on blogs and soap opera-like. Download interview part 1 and part 2.
Lovedrop promised to repay Speer, but he came to find out that LD was actually broke, yet putting up a front as if he was making money from coaching.
Speer claims he never got repaid to this day a cent of the $10,000 for damages.
He went on further to say on The Pick-Up Podcast Show, that he regrets being around Lovedrop, and that they poisoned the way he thinks. Download that interview Here.
Lovedrop never publicly responded.
Speer picking up girls in Miami.
LoveDrop teaching KINO escalation (how to touch girls).
Julian Fox vs Styles (Neil Strauss)
Styles (Neil Strauss)
Back in 2008, a then up-and coming pick-up artist coach out of NYC, Julian Foxx, made the ultimate challenge: he called out the PUA guru, Styles of Stylelife Academy (also the author of “The Game”), to a sarge off (a challenge at who could pick up the most, or hottest girls).
Julian said after analyzing Styles’ Game, he just could’nt believe that this guy (Styles) was capable of picking up chics (or more than he could).
Styles publicly backed down from the challenge and deferred Julian to challenge the PUA godfather, Mystery instead.
Word circulated that Julian had AMOG’d and pulled a chic from Mystery at a bar, and walked out with her on his arms.
A feud over what really happened that night ensued. One party calling the other fraud and washed up.
Video of Julian calling out Styles for a pick-up challenge/sarge off.
Styles on the Jimmy Kimmel show; gaming Jessica Alba.
Mystery vs Savoy
According to a top coach in the community, after Savoy, the leader and founder of the Love Systems PUA group, won the disputed settlement against Mystery, that he (Savoy) was awarded legal ownership of “The Mystery Method brand (founded by Mystery), Mystery was so pissed and hell bent on sabotaging Savoy, that he planned on hacking into the company’s records in order to get a hold of
Students’ info, in order to steal customers away from Savoy.
Savoy and Love Systems crew on a Fox News report, doing live pick up in a bar.
This incident spun off into a vicious-internet feud between the 2 camps: Love Systems(Savoy’s) and Venusian Arts (Mystery’s), instigated by the PUA coach Sinn.
Mystery on his VH1 Pick-Up Artist reality TV show, along with coaches Matador & Tara
Mystery in-field at a club showing his skills.
JTR vs VK Vince Kelvin
VK Vince Kelvin
Earlier in 2012, Cassanova Crew’s leader and founder, “JTR”, on an episode of his PUA podcast show, ranted that VK robbed him(financially) out of a business deal, used him in order to steal students over to the Project Hollywood Crew [and that's least of the fraudulent accusations]. Download the episode Here.
This got pretty ugly when JTR alleged that VK was in rehab in pretty bad shape trying to seduce the social worker to his last breath.
VK responded by physically threatening JTR and his crew via series of voice mails.
To add fuel to the flame, VK and Speer created an online crew dubbed “The Real Cassanova Crew”, essentially tried to paint JTR’s Casanova Crew as a copycat.
All went well (so it seemed), until the interview-release date kept being pushed back.
After the anticipated released, Justin noticed that a lot of what he said was omitted, and he thinks that Alan unfairly cut him off and didn’t give him sufficient time to dialogue.
This spun out into a whole controversy on JW’s blog as to who was at fault.
Alan eventually extended the olive branch: “Justin, I am sorry you felt that you were not given enough time to speak. I cannot say that I 100% agree with that. I ended up doing a 3-hour episode, and compared to other guests on my show, you had a lot of opportunities to speak”.
Mehow claimed that Ross is just attention seeking and looking to self promote off his name, and that Ross has been editing his (Mehow’s) guest posts on his (Ross’ site).
Mehow went further to challenge Ross to a sarge off [PUA contest at who can pick up the most chics], but claimed Ross turned down the proposal.
Ross upped the ante by making a Youtube video portraying Mehow as Hitler.
However, Mehow took the high road e-mailing Ross saying:
“There are pickup companies that don’t help people at all, have instructors with almost no experience at all, sell techniques that never ever work…yet somehow, every other post on your PUA Fraud its all about me … You are attacking a guy
with just insinuations (because that’s all you have) … a guy who’s central message is “Be
Social”. You use hypnosis on girls to get yourself laid (and from the demo you gave me when we hung out 4 years ago I believe it works).
A defiant Ross went on to bash Mehow however.
But it seems like the beef has been squashed.
Mehow making out with a nurse at a party.
Mehow kissing girl infront of her boyfriend.
Aaron Sleazy vs. VK Vince Kelvin
The ever so controversial Sleazy went at Vince on his blog [Picking up women with sleaze], claiming that VK could only manage to pick up fat and undesirable girls, UG’s (ugly girls), and that he creeps out the girls he approaches.
Aaron doubled down on the low-blows, claiming that the PUA heavy-weight, VK picks up underage girls (via his infield videos).
This Vince-trashing went on for few weeks, as Sleazy wrote about 3 subsequent articles dedicated to his disdain for VK.
Aaron eventually lost a lot of credibility in the seduction/seduction community for his VK-bashing.
Earlier this year on his bi-monthly PUA podcast show, PUA promoter/instructor “JTR” of California’s Casanova Crew, went at Ross of Speed Seduction pretty relentlessly, alleging that Ross was talking shit about him recently in the community.
Rippa (JTR) claims that Ross is disgruntled and pissed that he was excluded from, and not invited to speak at the PUA Summit, and decided to take it out on him.
Also that RJ kept e-mailing him begging to be a speaker for Casanova Crew.
Ross fired back saying that JTR is selling dick-enhancement pills to community guys.
Feud went back and forth between Ross and the entire Casanova Crew. However, it seems like the beef has ended (for now), since RJ had spoken at a few PUA events since.
Ross teaching how to arouse women.
PUA-Hate vs David Deangelo
The oft-scandalous guys over at PUA Hate pushed the scandal pedal to metal when they’d posted on their forum that the PUA guru, David D of Double your dating, has a Tranny as his new girlfriend.
David D and his GF
This treacherous rumor sparked a lot of outrage throughout the community on many forums and PUA lairs: perhaps PUA Hate has went over board this time.
Compounded by all the pressure and backlash, they apparently removed the scandalous-forum post.
David D hasn’t publicly responded [the community's outrage was enough I guess].
Many felt that PUA Hate had sunken to an all-time low with this accusation.
David D teaches attraction.
Speer vs Matador
After Speer’s falling out with the Venusian Arts Crew, he went at it with Lovedrop and Mystery, but the verbal beef between him and Matador was a lot more heated.
Matador said that Speer was never a pick-up coach for Venusian Arts, and he was just claiming so to bolster his credentials in the community.
Speer got pissed at Matador for insinuating that he wasn’t good enough to coach students.
Speer shows how to do “social-circle Game” at a party.
Sinn vs David Wygant
PUA heavy-weight Sinn, of Sinns of attraction, has been on a Twitter rampage over the years where he bashed other instructors.
During 1 of his public tirades, Sinn said that David Wygant is getting too e-mail happy, spamming him with products after products, and then sent him a newsletter trashing the PUA community.
DW replied to a blog post on Sinn’s site:
“you are very good at
making assumptions without ever speaking personally to me.
You have my email……I don’t hide on posts behind fake names. Do you want to talk and learn what I am about feel free to contact me in my office”.
The feud raged on even harder when the pick-up coach, Mack Tight, owner of E-Seduce, jumped in on the side of Sinn.
Eventually, an enraged Sinn challenged DW to a physical slug-fest: old-school style.
DW rebutted and called Sinn an immature asshole starting a disturbing beef.
Sinn,along with dating coach: PUA Psych, messing with some girls during night game street pick up.
Sinn talks about “attraction-switch theory”.
Mack Tight vs David Wygant
The drama between the PUA instructors Sinn & DW steamrolled onto Mack Tight of E-Seduce.
DW charged Mack Tight as a childish instigator and sidekick follower for suggesting he fight Sinn in an amateur-boxing match.
According to Mack, on an episode of the Barry Kirky PUA show, David claimed that Sinn could’nt look him in the eye like a real man at the ’08 PUA Summit gathering.
Mack Tight went on to rant that DW is a PUA community flip-flopper.
Some RDS members on their forum, have been calling for PUA guru Tyler Durden(RSD’s leader and founder)to sue Rob Judge.
However, Tyler surprisingly responded that he cares little about the supposed thievery, and that he wishes all PUA companies would stop bashing each other.
The feud subsequently died down, but the flames were fanned by the controversial guys at PUA Hate, as they dubbed Rob Judge as a guy who steals PUA material from everyone.
Tyler Durden (leader of RSD)picking up chics while not in the mind frame to.
RSD Nation guys talk about pick up.
Brad P vs Nathan PUA,Psych & Heartwork
Nathan PUA, PUA Psych, Heartwork
Rated the world’s best PUA coach(by many), Brad P of The 30-30 Club Forum, back in 2010 decided to take a controversial jab at the 3 rookie coaches when he accused them of treating newbie students like shit, and that Psych was never a coach @ PUA Training.
Brad P also claimed that the trios’ students were being ignored while the coaches got hammered drunk at venues and ultimately refused to refund them.
Also, that Nathan PUA roughed up a student(Forever Drake) at the PUA Under 21 Conference 2011(for aspiring PUA’s who are unable to enter nightclubs for over 21).
Brad P pulling his authoritative strings called for Nathan PUA,Psych and Heartwork to retire from the community (at least for a stint)!
Many felt that he was out of order for policing the community.
No public rebuttal was given by either coach as to Brad P’s accusations.
PUA Psych takes over a Mexican restaurant in NYC.
Thundercat(Joseph Matthew) vs Twenty Six(Barry Kirkey)
Casanovafest 2012, Sunday, February 26th., Los Angeles.
*Created by: Casanova Crew
*Hosted by: Casanova Crew
*Starts: 2 PM
*Ends: 10 PM
*Location: Captain Hooks
3515 Eagle Rock BLVD.
Los Angeles, California
Sunday Feb. 26th 2p-10pm $15 (order via link below)
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Casanovafest 2012 will be held on Sunday Feb 26th in Los Angeles, and promises to be the grandest PUA spectacle of all time! We have combined legendary veterans of the So Cal scene along with the newest exciting up and coming names for an event unlike any other.
What will make CC Fest 2012 an event unlike any other is that we will stress that instructors make this an interactive gathering; they will give live demonstrations with their female assistants and also take audience members to the stage and instruct them before us all on all the tips and techniques, do’s and dont’s, along with actual infield footage! This way you can actually see how its done up close and personal, and get a chance to get corrected by the coaches themselves!
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We’ve gathered 7 of the biggest names in our scene.
CC FEST 2012 will feature:
Gareth Jones (ABC’s of Afftaction)
Brad P (Dating Underground)
Arash (Seductive Instinct)
Marni (Wing Girl Method)
DJ Fuji (Tao of DJ Fuji)
Kino5000 (Bad Intentions)
+ Plus a special surprise!
Hosted by the Infamous PUA Steamroller!
Most of these PUA seminars are boring as fuck because of lack of audience participation and many talks turn into the dreaded…..PITCH FESTS! Well this WILL NOT HAPPEN at CC FEST 2012.
You will not be asked to stand up and chant “YES YES YES YES” like some other gooroos! Youre intelligence will NOT be insulted with lame NLP tactics just to buy DVD’s and books.
SPEAKERS are NOT ALLOWED to turn their speeches into pitch fests at CasanovaFest. That was the biggest complaint of the “PUA Vummit”. All selling will be reserved until the very end and will not take over the presenations.
And for all those of you who have spent hundreds, if NOT THOUSANDS on these types of seminars, rest assured this event wont break you because….
Ok guys, if y’all haven’t read part 1 to this topic: click the link Here to check it out
When is it OK to buy her a drink?
As the title suggests; the girl whom you’re chatting up at the bar or club HAS to EARN it.
This is a classic concept in the pick-up community dubbed Rewarding her.
Listen clearly! The only time you should buy her a drink is if she’s worked for it, and you’re essentially REWARDING her.
Do not reward bad behavior!
How many times have we seen a guy chatting up a girl, and she’s clearly not interested (via body language), nor engaged in the chat [i.e. Bad Behavior], yet the he still initiates buying her a drink!
That is essentially rewarding her for bad behavior. Or for anti-social behavior.
Why would you reward someone who hasn’t done anything to deserve it!!?
Women are so used to being rewarded by Beta males when they don’t deserve it, that they virtually expect every guy to do the same.
We can all thank the Betas/nice guys for setting this awful trend(SMFH).
Grounds for rewarding her
Ok, the reason guys chat up girls is to get laid (eventually). No secret in that.
Accordingly, whatever the girl does to facilitate the possible lay, or if she’s just enjoying the time y’all are spending. Feel free to reward her with a drink.
The fact that she’s been so receptive and reciprocative to you and the chat (opposed to being a first-class bitch), somewhere during the chat (15 minutes after), I may say to her:
“Hey Marcy, I’m gonna get ‘MYSELF’ a drink. Since you’ve been such a fucking rockstar, I’m gonna get you one too. Let’s go to the bar”!
The subtle beauty in what I said is this:
*I made it clear that ‘I’ was gonna buy ‘MYSELF’ a drink. And I’m in such a good mood that I’m considering getting you on. But I come first.
That is very fucking powerful guys!
It subcommunicates to the girl that “you’re more important than she is” [who's just a stranger].
As we already know, that mindset and frame is a crucial part of the alpha lifestyle.
And women LOVE Alphas and men who are dominant and confident with a touch of asshole mixed in there.
What I stated to her is what separates real men from boys.
An Alpha always puts himself before any random woman.
While betas/wussies put the woman first: aka pedestalling [which is a grave sin in the seduction community].
Women are attracted to dominance and high-valued men! Their panties get super friggin’ drenched by guys who display such behavior!
A guy CANNOT be high value, if he’s going around the club rewarding girls who haven’t invested anything into an interaction.
Women see such actions as weak, supplicative and sly!
So once the girl has invested in the conversation by actually talking for more than 15 minutes, she has essentially earned any good acts you’re willing to perform.
On the contrary, if you’re trying to social and converse with her, but she’s not responding, not talking much, being a bitch, being indifferent, not smiling, obviously not enjoying the time…Why the fuck would you even contemplate rewarding such bitchy behavior!?
And the sickening thing is: Most men would STILL reward her (or attempt to) by buying her a drink !!!
It’s as if the guy say to himself, “you know what, she’s acting a bit frosty right now, so I’m gonna buy her a drink”.
Hoping that will activate her conversational motors.
Once a woman sees you’re rewarding her shitty behavior, she will take advantage (if she’s that kinda girl).
She will drink your ass out while pretending to be enjoying the chat, just to have your ass running back and forth to the bar like a damn waiter!
Then she’s gonna introduce you to her social group, and you’re gonna find yourself feeling compelled to buy drinks for her girlfriends too!!!
Guys, we’ve all seen this shit play out every weekend at venues.
We’ve all probably been there and been that looser guy.
That guy rushing to the bar then returning to the set with 4 cocktails in hands: praying not to spill them.
That sought of behavior is WEAK and a turnoff to women.
And how ironic that 95% of men in clubs and bars act this way: committing such ridiculous social faux-pas.
So you never want to put yourself in a situation where the girl has you buying drinks for her girlfriends: which is quite common nowadays (SMH).
That is why I appreciate the pick-up community and our insights so much.
The guru/head coach for RSD (Real Social Dynamics),Tyler Durden, once wrote an article years ago entitled “Secret Society”.
He went on as to say that, “Only 5% of men in the world get laid regularly. And in the club: only 5% of the men in the venue will actually get laid”.
The reality that guys are in the bars and clubs doing dumb shit, like buying girls drinks when they haven’t earned it. I can picture now what TD meant by that.
Hard Truth In Closing:
Women are 100 times more socially savvy that us.
Women are 100 times more socially aware than us.
Women are 100 times more perceptive than us.
So if you’re scheming, plotting and contemplating buying drinks: Know that the girl knows the only reason you’re doing it is to buy your way into her pants.
Thus, she will either reject you now by turning down your drink proposal.
Or she will accept your drinks, use you all night as her drink-provider, then reject you later.
So we cannot blame women for being gold-diggers. We can only blame the men who readily offer them gold.
Once again, chec out this interesting article about buying drinks from a female’s perspective: imma buy you a drank
Hot girls are usually bitchy! Whether that stems from their insecurities or from the many guys they’ve rejected over the years: bitchiness & beauty usually goes hand in hand.
Ok, with that out the way, lets get to the action!!
Few years ago, after reading an online-seduction article on gaming hotter girls [cant remember by which dating coach], I was pumped as hell to try out some new stuff! I was flying solo that night (no wingman to fuck up my game).
Ordered a cocktail, then headed to the dancefloor to survey some ass while tryna look as normal as possible (and not like an AFC/weird guy).
I usually dont go for the hottest chic in a venue [too much competition]. But this time-instead of settling for an 8 or 9, a hot ass HB10 caught my eyes from the get-go!!! Not only my eyes; this chick had every guy’s attention at the Coast night club!
I mean it was mesmerizing the way she twirled and whined like an Indian- belly dancer.
All the average guys, naturals & players were hovering around this chick like fucking helicopters. Some tryna talk to her, others tryna dance with her, others asking her to let them buy her drinks…
Of course she shut them down like a true b***h would.
I’d typically be one of those rejectees [thanks to the underground-seduction community].
So I threw on my James Bond cool demeanor while I gave her “the eye”.
Not a gawking,deer in the headlights stare. But a dominant look with a sly stare & smile which exude, “I’m not like those other chumps”.
I mean,we spoke to each other via body language & eye contact. Not a word said, but our bodies were in tuned. It’s divine; cant put it in words but I just felt it.
At this point, I body rock out (turn my back towards her). We were about 15 yards apart; a technique I’d learned from reading materials by Mystery aka Erik Von Markovik [the God of pick-up].
While all the guys were facing her,I was the only one slightly turned away. That shit must’ve made her insecurity alarms go off (questioning her beauty), “why isnt he paying me any attention, am I not pretty enough, is he not attracted-why not”?
That’s what usually runs through the minds of high-maintenance types, when they’re not given the attention they think they deserved, they then question themselves.
Sure, she had all the attention a girl could ask for (from about 20 men in her circumference), but those men weren’t challenging. They indicated their interests way too soon, thus disqualifying themselves before the game began.
I was “the only” challenge she had.
She eventually got jaded and tired of all the attention, so she exited the dancefloor and went to look over the railings into the bay [the club overlooks a bay since it was on the island's coast line].
So I made my way over to her (from the side, so I didn’t startle her by coming up directly behind her like a creep)…
And I said these magical words to her “I can dance way better than you“, then walked off right away [slowly, confidently and cocky].
Now you may ask, “what was so magical about that line”? But the magic wasnt in the line(words), but the audacity to go up to the hottest girl in the club and say something bold with a cool-sly smile.
She expected me to throw some cheesy-ass pick up line, compliment or offer to buy her a drink like 95% of guys would. But I flipped the script with a C&F line [pick up slang for something ballsy and challenging], which totally fucked up her mental circuitry.
And to top it off-I walked off instead of staying there like a needy-guy (subcommunicating that I was lonely and wanted to chat). So I walked away slowly to the nearest bar in the venue where she would be able to see where I went.
Now remember, Im following a script here: according to the pick-up article I’d read a week prior to this, if done right (the take aways, body language, etc.), she would track me down to continue the chat.
All I had to do from then on was to not get lost in the crowd where she couldn’t see me.
Still skeptical of this working (she following me and tracking me down), I ordered another Malibu & pj and got sidetracked by 1 of the TV’s in a lounge area. Then I felt a tap on my shoulder-which scared the shit out of me! Turned around, and it was the HB10-Hot Girl.
At this point, Im paralyzed with anxiety not knowing what to say since I didnt expect she’d actually come over to me!!!
So she leaned in animatedly and yelled, “why do you think you can dance better than me”?
I cant remember what I said aftrewards but 10 minutes later, we were making out heavy in a secluded area of the club. I end up taking her back to my expensive hotel, but had no fuckin condom so didnt get to lay her [fuck]!!!
The Heritage Hotel on the island of Antigua where I took her
All that heavy making out for shit!
Had to settle for some oral play. This girl was actually my first squirter BTW. That shit was crazy lmao.
Ok guys, that approach may not work for everyone nor on any girl, but it’s a very powerful technique for seducing in clubs or bars or any night venues.
Frankly, it’d work better in bars where the music isnt that loud and it isnt over crowded.
And it’s not the words, it’s the balls to not supplicate and suck up to a 10 just because she’s hot.
Having the balls to walk away, knowing and believing that she’ll pursue you (eventhough I didnt believe it at first).
And she didnt have to re-open me; I had the solid option to go back up to her later on, knowing she was already attracted and open since our dancefloor flirting.