Donny G the Pick-Up Artist
Guest post by Donny G, PUA from London.
Tank Tactics: Can Persistence be your Weapon of Choice?
Day game, night game, club game. These three types of encounters rely solely on being able to attain a hook point within a matter of minutes. From the moment of your initial approach you are being assessed: “Who is this guy? What does he want? And how long am I stuck with him for?” – These are the main obstacles you face when trying to build rapport and attraction in a short period of time.
And any PUA on the planet will tell you that success isn’t guaranteed. You are going to face rejection on more than one solitary occasion. This isn’t down to the skill of the PUA, but more-so due to the HB not being ready. Steve Jabba referred to it best when he stated that some women simply are not ready to be swept off their feet. In these instances there is nothing that can be done.
But what if you had time as your wingman? Imagine that! No false time restraints, no routines, no negs and no NLP; just the courage to be 100% authentic and play to your strengths. After all, we all want a partner who likes us for who we are, rather than who we were told to be in a book or on a message board somewhere.
In this blog I will take a look at a technique that I have come to call ‘Tank Tactics’. Tank Tactics explores the notion that any woman can be won over with persistence – and you don’t have to be a PUA to apply them. There are no false time constraints because the time constraints are real. There are no routines because you are simply laying down the foundations to something bigger. There are no negs because you are able to build a rapport where teasing is comfortable. And finally there is no NLP involved because the anchors you are using are 100% down to you as an individual.
What you have to understand before I begin is that there is a difference between persistence and neediness. And a very fine line it is indeed. A needy man will constantly ask for dates and seek qualification, while a persistent man will be able to DHV (demonstrate high value) and intrigue his target to a point that her instinctive voice will be screaming yes to his eventual advances.
I remember reading ‘The Game’ like every other AFC turned PUA. One of the most memorable stories for me was the section in which Tyler Durden speaks about ploughing through obstacles until he attains his goal with women. I remember laughing out loud and attracting a few looks on the bus journey home; he was talking about TT without realising it.
I was always that guy who wouldn’t approach girls or talk to them on nights out. But unknowingly I had come up with a formula that had seen me get more success rates than any other AFC. It was only after further reading and studying that I managed to hone this tactic to a 100% success rate. But how? I suppose the best way is to refer back to one of many instances at my favourite stomping ground; work.
There she was; a rather pale beauty with dark hair and eyes so blue you could almost see yourself swimming in them. She wasn’t the type of girl who knew how beautiful she was; she was the more dangerous type that unwittingly led every interested man down a long and winding garden path. She had just broken up with her boyfriend of eight months and wasn’t interested in anybody. To her, everybody was just being friendly. To her, she had no interest in any of us.
Time constraints and routines?
Being at work it was very difficult to speak to her for a long period of time, so there were constant time restraints. First I made myself known to her, and to a certain extent I was just being friendly but I knew that I was simply creating foundations for something bigger. The fact she now knows who I am made it easier to randomly talk to her again and again; and I would do this regularly making sure I DHV (demonstrate high value). Two minutes here, five minutes there… I was the friendly guy at work who would come over and make her day pass quicker.
From two minute meet ups I would walk with her on lunch breaks. Now that she was used to longer conversations, two minutes here and there paled in comparison. So every visit I made to talk to her during work left her wondering how long it would be until I had to leave again. Sometimes I would just say hi to her on my lunch and walk in a different direction to her. Why didn’t I want to talk to her suddenly? I did, but by taking away my company I am making her conditioned voice conflict with her instinctive voice.
After a few days I invited her to lunch. I remember this event specifically because she agreed, but made it clear that it was a “mate date” and she doesn’t dip her pen in the company’s ink. Friend zoned? It wasn’t even a test. To her, she had no interest in dating. To her, this was just a friendly lunch. But it was a date even though I was happy to let her think otherwise. I even made a quip about having more style than to take a girl on a first date to a café across the road from my work. On my lunch break. To have a hot chocolate.
After this point we became very friendly; and this is the point where you have to escalate rapidly. I began to hug her, touch her and discuss sexual things with her. I even bought a little pot of ink as a joke with a note attached saying “here is a pot of ink, now you don’t have to worry about dipping your pen in the company’s”.
You see, in her mind her conditioned voice is still telling her that she doesn’t want to get into anything, but her instinctive voice begins to become the more dominant inner voice. Imagine the use of anchors in NLP. Now imagine being able to plant anchors similar to those in NLP without any knowledge? I would constantly make references to how I am a great cook, or how there is something worth noting in my house. If you keep planting these seeds the chances are that she is eventually going to qualify herself for an invite.
She did. I obliged. We closed.
The breakdown is really simple when not applied to a long winded story; although the story does well to explain certain scenarios.
Make an introduction.
Regularly interact and DHV (demonstrate high value) in short bursts.
Escalate interaction to a longer burst.
Take away (The pull in your push).
Escalate to more regular interactions.
Rapid escalate (Tanking).
Close
You don’t even have to work with the HB in order for TT to work; it will work with anybody you see regularly, be it at your work, at her work, in your gym or even on the bus. You are just using the familiarity to build a foundation in which you can create comfort in conversing. Once more of a familiarity is formed you can create curiosity and rapid escalate or “tank”.
The regular notions surrounding Pickup still remain; DHV and kino. But the rest is entirely down to you through an authentic approach. And I suppose that a lot of this tactic still relies on inner game and how you can DHV with a positive portrayal of yourself. But I should probably warn you that some girls’ instinctive voices scream louder than others. Some will be okay to have a bit of fun, while others will want a relationship. I have found this out the hard way, so manage expectations.
Social Kenny also uses TT when he goes on the Scavenger Hunt. When inhibitions are lowered, or comfort zones are breached, girls become far more prone to opening up to a persistent man. After all, they love the chase as much as we love the pursuit.
I’d just like to add in conclusion to this guest post that Donny G is Le-Fucking Git! And his Tanking Technique is rock solid!
Need proof? Check out this exclusive-field-report article from November, written by a sexy-female blogger out of London, which detailed how Donny G had seduced her off her feet and gave her the best sexual experience in her life! You’ll find out how he got the name Donny Goodhands: I just wanna make you wet!
Follow him on Twitter at @dom_campbell
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Donny G the Pick-Up Artist
I want to be the first commenter to say that this tactic is solid and doable. So many nice angles to it that I can’t begin to recount.
What I really dug about this article and tank tactics is that everything us built-in (DHV spikes, FTC’s, etc.), so it keeps the guy from actually going into his head to figure out what to do next.
Hey Kenny P, I was just checking out your latest infield joint with the n close. Good shit so I had to tweeet it asap bro.
As for Donny G, I believe I browsed him before on the pickup artist foprum. Not quite sure if its same dude.
And why did he not post this technique on the forum if its his or him?
And donny, did you study under steve jabba?
I had to ask because you referenced him by name so I was curious if you learned game from steve by any chance.
Sharpie.
Hopefully Donny G will chime in and answer this question because I don’t know the answer to it. But it would be nice to know if he learned a thing or 2 from my man Steve Jabba.
Myself and Kenny were having a discussion about persistence and I told him about TT. He thought it would be a good idea to explain it in writing, and that is how the blog was created. There is a link on the PUA forum, and yes that is indeed me.
I didn’t study under Steve Jabba, but I strongly agree with what he does and how he does it. Anybody who is looking to take a class in the UK should be looking to take it with Steve.
The main idea behind this blog is that you don’t have to be the PUA of PUAs to be able to pull it off. I am still learning, but have 100% success with it. I am tanking a girl I see on the bus most mornings. She has now got so comfortable that I can tease her withour offence and that she showed me semi naked pictures of her. The reason behind this was because she wanted me to see how good she looks outside of her work clothes. Qualifying herself and she doesn’t even know it.
Nice! Steve should be paying you for some endorsements lol.
So as socialkenny mentioned, many aspects of pickup is already builtin into this tactic, so you don’t have to be a student of seduction to learn those steps. I gather that’s what you mean.
hell no I don’t think so. That steve guy is all about natural game bullshit at lesst thats what he claims. this tanking technique isn’t natural game in essence so this couldnt be inspired by steve jabba.
nice 1 though mate. I like the shirt with elmo in the picture lol.
Hey,
Thanks for the kind words Donny G. I’m trying, that’s for sure.
Re this technique, i’ve used it over the years myself though in a big city like London it can be harder than in a place where you see a girl regularly.
I’m actually adding to my book now and explaining how value can be subcommunicated rapidly if you do it right (and avoid doing a lot of things that other guys do)
But fundamentally it all boils down to building your value as a man. You need the right information to begin with, and then set your course over the months and years to come.
That’s true Steve. A technique like this would be ideal for small towns and stuff or where you’re bound to see the target regularly. For instance a co-worker, chick working the register at a fast-food joint or something.
Ole Donny is 6″4 and likes girls with massive boobs eh? Cool!
Good work son!
Steve you know Donny G personally? Obviously you do since you know his stature and height and stuff. Did you teach him seduction?
@Sharpie, yeah that is what I am saying. Any level can do this.
@Hotrod, there are issued with being the smartest person in the room, or seeing yourself as such. I will write a blog on this. Basically, no one PUA should totally discredit anothers work. All styles have their own benefits and can be learned from. Personally, I am a strong believer in what Steve teaches and I am not just saying that because he commented.
@Steve, I like big butts and I cannot lie. Big breasts are okay. I would much rather C’s maybe Ds. I just love women in general ha. But I do agree with you about this technique. While it follows certain fundementals, it allows one to DHV and be authentic.
I copy. I wasn’t bashing. but it makes sense to me as I had learned pickup and seduction from various quarters.
Also @HotRoddTodd, thanks for the compliment re the t-shirt. That type of clothing reflects my personality, but also has some crazy peacock attraction to it. Not quite to Mystery’s extremes, but just as affective and better yet… stylish haha
Hahaha no one is like Mystery.
im all about peacocking with interesting articles and funny characters on my shirts.
my next venture is to get something really outragous printed on my shit like “Fug You” or something. Makes for a great approach invitation.
@Hot Rodd @Donny G- Yea the shirt is wicked! Simple yet it gives off a playful vibe to women and shows that humor and being light-hearted is a big thing for you.
Good tactics mate. I instinctively apply this to my style of pickup so it’s nothing extremely new to me. Most of what is taught in the community is just refined and tweaks here and there. But to put a model together is a good thing.
Peace from Copenhagen!
Not really agreeing with article at all, too many contradictions by author.
I hear you Bogs. I don’t know if to say contradictions instead of angles. Hopefully the author can address this claim.
I was originally thinking of writing break down, but figured out it going to be long ass comment and decided against it lol
Lol ok cool. What part of the concept you disagree with? Is it the towing of the lines between friend zone or coming off too friendly?
Forgot to mention, the NLP (built-in) where you’d said to the HB that you cook and so forth, that was so powerful of an NLP anchor it’s not even funny!
And that is what guys need to realize. Instead of literally asking a girl to come to your place, you elude to it and bait her into suggesting, which makes her believe that it was her own idea. Powerful NLP tactics.
You don’t have to be a PUA to do this.
Guys who are naturally good with women (may) do these things and don’t even know it.
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“Who is this guy? What does he want? And how long am I stuck with him for?” -lol, that’s exactly what we think. May I add the question “What is he going to offer me?” I know not all woman may think this right away, but I do think this is why you have to demonstrate high social value, so she thinks you are a valuable person in the world.
I like the ink pot bit, that was really cute. And she was probably thinking of you everytime she looked at it.
@Bossy- I recall in 1 of your older posts, you posted something like this where you were saying that those thoughts fly through a woman’s mind when interacting with a guy.