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I had a chat yesterday with a female cousin of mines, and this was what she said [to my surprise]:
“I don’t get why guys lie about having someone. If you’re married, say you’re fucking married! If you got a girl; then fucking say it! I hate when guys try talk to me and tell me they’re single and I come to find out from 1 of their friends that they have a girl. Damn!!! Let me decide whether I want to deal with you or not because you’re taken!!! I’m grown enough to make a choice and chose to”!!!
I was frikkin’ flabbergasted!
Not because of what she said, but how much it confirms what we’ve been teaching in pickup for years, which is that women really don’t give a fuck whether you are in an LTR (Relationship) or not!
As long as she’s attracted and is feeling you; then she’ll be willing to share you with another woman [while scheming to take you from that other woman all together].
Feminist-backed western society has fucked the whole process of courtship so badly, that men actually believe that hiding their marital or relationship statuses from other women is the way to go.
We can blame it on Femi-Nazism, religion and the media which brainwash men into believing that (all) women want and should have monogamy.
On an individual level however, the average guy, who unfortunately is a Beta-Male pussy, he feels that withholding the fact that he has a girlfriend, or is married, would better his chances of getting the girl whom he’s currently chatting up.
Seems logical!
However, that is men using logics to determine attraction [which doesn't go hand in hand].
Being that men are logical creatures (when it comes to dating and courtship), we take a logical stance and viewpoint on the seduction process and say such things as:
“Which chick would fuck with a guy who has a girlfriend!!? So I best be LOGICAL and lie and say that I’m single”!
Logics and love do not friggin’ mix!
Drill that into your heads guys!
Everyone already knows my schtick: I never lie to girls and tell them that I don’t have a girlfriend!
I know that girls are (subconsciously) attracted to men who are taken.
Read my article entitled: “The empty restaurant effect”.
I’ve been in an LTR [relationship] for the past 3 years now.
Whenever I do meet other women (even just for casual chat), I’m always straight up about my status.
I’m so confident about it [that it's a HUGE plus], I know the fact that I have a girlfriend will only make her want me much more.
That is my mindset, my reality and my frame, which usually overpowers her mindset to get her on board [strongest mindset wins].
In that case, I’ve always advocated for guys to NEVER lie about this!
Always admit that you have someone (if you do).
It will only make your chances better with other women.
I know it sounds counterintuitive and goes against logics.
Even when I was single (prior to meeting my current GF), I discovered that saying to women “I’m taken”, made me more irresistible to women.
In the Seduction community, there are 2 schools of thoughts when it comes to this matter:
One school of pickup says that you should tell women that you have a GF (even though you don’t).
The second school of thoughts teaches that if you do have a GF (or wife); withhold that info [not by lying, but neglecting to mention it].
Obviously, I’m from the school of thought which advocates telling girls that you have someone (even if you don’t).
Now, I get asked a lot by aspiring PUA’s:
“Kenny, why should I tell girls that I’m taken (even though I’m really single)”?
Coupled with what I’d mentioned in the previous section, there are many reasons why this is a good strategy.
For one, women love competition and drama!
That’s their fucking oxygen!
I don’t give a shit which girl says that she’s drama-free, hates drama and all that gibberish!
Those are the types who love drama and competing for male attention the most!
This is the main reason why they watch soap operas; it’s to get their fix of drama and suspense. And they’re addicted to it like crack!
The main theme in soap operas is Infidelity (cheating) and love affairs!
Whenever I meet a girl, I present myself as a dose of soap opera: but in reality.
She can play a supporting role in Kenny’s Little Adventure or become the protagonist itself.
On the contrary, saying to her that you’re single, just doesn’t present the girl with any challenge whatsoever [since she doesn't have to possible fight for your attention, your cock or your heart]!
As a PUA who was single, I would lie my ass off constantly to girls I’d meet, and tell them that I was married and looking to have affairs!
I would instigate this to the extreme by saying shit like:
“My girl and I just had a fucking fight and I’m pissed right now and I’m looking for a girl to cheat with. You seem like a good candidate”!
Is not that single men don’t get laid.
Is that if you’re taken; say that you’re taken and not lie and say that you’re single!
She doesn’t get that soap opera moment by hooking up with a guy who’s single.
This is the classic reason why women fuck with married men.
The thrill, rush and the sheer knowledge that she’s doing something morally forbidden is like a fucking aphrodisiac for women!
Men generally don’t watch soap operas.
Reason being is that it’s loaded with illogics and irrationalities which men cannot fucking relate to (by nature).
Men are too practical to be consumed by the things which occur in soap operas.
Once you’re savvy enough to tap into this innate affinity of drama (which lies dormant in every girl), she’ll be willing to accept the fact that you’re taken, but doesn’t care.
The ability to cause this in women, is what separates men from boys, Alphas from Betas, masters from students.
Telling a girl that you’re single, robs her of the thrill she secretly craves: knowing that she can possibly steal another woman’s man.
And this is where being an Alpha-Male comes in.
Every woman is attracted to Alpha Males.
Every woman seeks an Alpha Male.
Every woman day dreams about being with an Alpha Male.
Every woman fantasizes about being fucked by a dominant Alpha!
The knight in shining armor character which you see in romance novels is an Alpha-Male.
The action hero in a movie is an Alpha-Male.
Leonardo Dicaprio’s character in the Titanic is an Alpha-Male.
If a girl happens to be UNfortunate and got herself a boyfriend or husband who ISN’T an Alpha (but a Beta-Male), she will become unruly, super disrespectful, cheat on him then dump him eventually for a guy who possesses Alpha-Male qualities which her current partner lacks.
A girl will almost always look to upgrade by dumping a Beta for a perceived Alpha-Male [How to not get dumped, article by Socialkenny].
It’s a fucking jungle out here guys LOL!
This all hearkens back to millions of years of human evolution: from Neanderthal man to the Homo-Erectus roaming Africa.
The Alphas were highly desired by women, while the Betas were shunned and couldn’t find mates, thus shortly died out without their legacies being carried on.
One obvious trait of the Alpha Male is that he always has women in his life.
He’s never fucking truly single [if he is single, he's banging women regularly]!
He Attracts harems of women by the mere fact that he has other women!
[Read Attracting women via Pre-selection theory, by seduction coach, Evan Hawk.]
And women are instinctively drawn and attracted to Alpha-Males [men whom are sought after by other women].
Therefore, whenever you say to a girl whom you’ve just met:
“I have a girlfriend”.
Logically (and verbally), she will likely say, “I can’t deal with you then”.
Subconsciously though, she’ll be drawn to you (based on the Alpha-Male quality of having a girlfriend).
It’s up to you to exploit this by seducing her on a SUBCONSCIOUS level rather than a logical one.
What a woman logically wants, thinks or says [she doesn't want to mess with a man who's taken], is completely different than what she actually does [gets involved with a man who's taken].
But an AFC (average guy) not having such knowledge of female psychology, would try to logically convince a girl to hook up with him, instead of playing to her illogical and emotional side, which is 100 times more powerful than the rational side.
Which in essence is the art of seduction. To Seduce means to mislead or lead astray. You cannot lead someone astray LOGICALLY. It can only be done on an ILLOGICAL (subconscious) level.
That is why we over eat, eat unhealthy, don’t pay attention to safety measures (drive and text), make bad decisions constantly, etc. All this is driven by the emotions and desires (feelings).
The portion of the brain which is dubbed the “Reptilian Brain”, governs desires, wants, likes, emotions, feelings, etc.
Once a guy can tap into this part of a woman’s brain, he can convince her to go against her previously held beliefs and her moral code.
For example:
•Get her to fuck on the first date although she might have been totally against this yesterday.
•Get her to have 3-somes although she was adamantly against this.
•Get her to perform the best blowjob session, even though she might have deemed such act as reprehensibly nasty before.
This is the power that pimps have over their hoes/hookers.
It’s also the same influence and power that a hypnotist or a magician have over his audience.
He taps into his subject’s reptilian brain, then seduce her/him.
This is the power of the Pick-Up Artist: we do NOT give a shit about seducing women on a superficial-logical level (as the average guy does).
We target the most powerful part of the woman’s brain (governing desires and lust): the reptilian brain, then seduce her accordingly.
Saying all this to say, when you tell a girl that you’re single, it doesn’t engage her reptilian brain…at least not on this matter.
It doesn’t get her emotionally invested since there is nothing emotionally challenging about a guy who’s single.
On the other hand, telling her that you’re taken, will create drama, tension, challenge, suspense, fear, intrigue, guilt, a sense of sluttiness, etc.
All of those things are fueled by emotions, which stem from the reptilian side of the brain.
Now you have her emotional (which is where you want her in order to seduce her).
A girl cannot be seduced if she’s not highly emotional [fearful, horny, sad, excited...].
Women reading this may say, “Well I met a guy last month and he told me he had a girl and I shut him down quickly”.
I know! And I believe it!
Most men are pussies!
Once the target (girl) says that she doesn’t get involved with guys who are taken, or married, most men will just lap their little tails and run away dejectedly.
Had he persisted and engaged the girl’s emotional side, he would have succeeded in convincing the girl to hook up with him anyway [since he's an Alpha-Male].
Women may see such seduction tactics as immoral and unethical (tapping into her emotional side), but that is what every guy does who’s good with women.
It isn’t only PUA’s who engage in such tactics.
Your average-neighborhood players, macks, lady’s man and gigolos all use these techniques also.
However, they aren’t consciously aware of them, nor are they consciously doing these things [unlike the PUA who has it down to an art and science].
Any man who is good with women and gets laid often, is skilled at speaking to a woman’s emotional side, and plays to her sense of thrill and challenge.
Contrarily, guys who suck with women and hardly get laid, are doing the opposite; they are talking to women on a LOGICAL level, and engaging her LOGICAL brain, which will then force her to shut him down if he tries to pick her up.
You cannot seduce a woman on a logical level by chatting her up with logical facts!
And that is the mistake that men who do poorly with women often make.
At the top of this article, I’d outlined a chat between a female cousin and I, where she virtually stated that she’d be open to hooking up with a guy who’s taken. But guys fuck their chances by lying to her and saying that they’re single when they’re not [as she'd discovered later on].
Is my cousin just a slutty-ass bitch who lacks any sort of ethics when it comes to hooking up!?
Or is her stance on this the norm?
It’s the norm guys!
Most women will never admit to this; especially to men whom they aren’t related to (or close with).
However, my cousin and I share that sort of connection where she keeps it real on such matters.
She has nothing to lose by sharing this with me since I’m obviously not a potential suitor around whom she has to watch what she says.
Had I not been close with her, or was a guy whom she’s interested in, or some stranger; she would definitely NOT have said that she’d hook up with a guy who’s taken.
The lesson is pretty clear guys; never hide that you have someone in your life (but looking to play the field anyway).
If you’re married yet looking to have fun: then say it!
Be truthful with women about your status [that is if you're taken].
If you’re genuinely single however, I’d advise you to tell women that you’re NOT single.
Tell her that you have a GF even if you’re single as the numerical number 1!
If she pries further into that, and wants to know why are you chatting her up even though you’re taken, Don’t give her any logical answers!!!
Don’t engage her logical side!
Say something illogical to her like:
“I do have a GF. I love her a lot. She treats me real nice. But that’s the problem; I’m bored and I’m in search of excitement. Not just sexual excitement but an emotional one”.
Be fucking illogical guys!!!
Play that shit up!!!
Say shit that doesn’t make LOGICAL sense in such a situation if she questions you (as to why you’re chatting her up and you have a GF).
Saying such illogical things to her and withholding (plausible answers) will get her invested into the interaction.
You’ll be reeling her in!
In pickup, we call this tactical theory Open Loops [using open-ended questions and not providing answers].
And once a woman is invested [emotionally]; it’s game over!
By not giving her closure [logical answers]; she will become intrigued and confused all together (which is what you want).
[Read Hook Theory by Sasha PUA, the Israeli PUA-dating coach.
It'd be a mixed bag of emotions and unanswered questions.
Unknowing to them, this is also the reason why women love soap operas and are drawn to it like mindless zombies; they are NOT given closure.
They are purposely robbed of closure by the soap producers who designed it this way [via psychology].
The marketers know this, which is why they design soap operas in such a way as to captivate people via confusion, unanswered questions, fractionation, open loops and promises of closure in the next episode (which never comes).
This is a way some guys get women to fall in love with them and go crazy over them!
I call this: “The Jesus Effect”.
Why do you think women are so drawn to the historical figure “Jesus”, and believe in him so ardently?
It’s about PARABLES!
Jesus spoke in parables!
See the connection?
He engages the reptilian brain (of women) by speaking in parables and ambiguous terms which were very enigmatic.
If Jesus was a logics-talker, I can guarantee he would NOT have a following at all.
He was a proverbial soap opera!
Enigmatic!
He never provided anyone with (LOGICAL) answers.
He purposely withheld information and answers.
He never said anything which was easily decipherable.
He was a puzzle and a riddle, whom when questioned, would never give you LOGICAL, discernible answers.
That is also why women generally are more religious than men, attend churches and religious services more, etc.
This isn’t coincidence.
Churches use psychology on women in order to appeal to them by playing to their irrational side and their reptilian brain, thus manipulating them.
The more women they (churches) can attract (seduce), the more men will follow eventually (since men go wherever women congregate).
Same theory with the nightclub industry.
Men aren’t gonna go to cock-filled nightclubs which don’t have any women.
So nightclubs cater to women in order to bring them in, which will then bring men in accordingly.
Hence, modern religion (namely Christianity), is all a ploy to seduce women through irrationalities in order to get rich.
[Whether you believe in Jesus or not is irrelevant. The point still stands].
Men who are taken or married, can create this same effect by tapping into the woman’s emotional side.
If you’re taken and still want to play the field; then there’s still hope.
Massive amounts of it!
Just re read the article and take notes.
From this day forth, you’ll have no reason to lie to women ever again (that you’re single).
If she says that she doesn’t do men with girlfriends, fuck what she says and continue chatting her up with the format that I’d laid out in this article [become enigmatic and illogical].
You’ll be surprised to find out that she’s DTF in spite of your relationship status.
Now go get laid!
Related Articles (Must Read):
•Jesus: the greatest Pick-Up Artist of all time by Socialkenny.
•The hypocrisy of religion, women and sex by Socialkenny.
•The empty restaurant effect by Socialkenny.
•Don’t give a shit about her moral code by Socialkenny.
•Why women are subconsciously attracted to men who are taken by Socialkenny.
•Hook her by denying her closure by Socialkenny.
•Socialkenny’s POF online dating method for seducing girls online.
•More proof that chics are irrational and illogical by Socialkenny.
•Get girls to chase you by Mc Maax.
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•Creating sexual tension with open loops by Mens XP.
•Use Fractionation psychological techniques to seduce women by Derek The Rake.
•The bad boy, nice guy and Alpha Male from Attract and Seduce.com.
•Learn how to seduce a woman using evolutionary psychology from Alpha Issue.com.
•Emotion, logics, flaking mixed with a cup of Zen by Cameron of Attract Women Anywhere.com.
•Freeze frame; controlling the conversation by Chateau Heartiste aka Roissy the DC Bachelor.
•Pre-selection: attracting women by having other women by Smile PUA.
•Attracting women via Pre-selection theory, by seduction coach, Evan Hawk.
•Hook Theory by Sasha PUA, the Israeli PUA-dating coach.
Yea true shit man! Telling girls you’re taken and have a GF puts their guard down.
Oh nice, I never thought about that.
Me neither.
Which means activating her emotional responses
Girls, logically, don’t want to be going after a taken man. They also, logically, don’t want one-night-stands. Unfortunately (for them), they let emotions do all their thinking for them. So, logically, men should say they’re taken, lol.
Lol you made me laugh as hell with this one. This is comment is so right, I don’t think I could’ve said it better bro’. Women let emotions lead them and cloud out their logics.
Some heavy shit here man.
I’m not for cheating around really but if I was married and decided to get laid elsehwre, I can see now that lying about being married isnt the way to go.
And kenny, where does preselection fit in here. A lot of it seems like preselection to me.
Can’t believe you have a guide for helping guys cheat!
Who’s being illogical now! If a guy wants to get laid by various women then don’t be in a fucking relationship!
Simple. To the point. Logical!
Lol I hear you DQ! And I must agree.
However, it’s common knowledge that ppl will cheat opposed to breaking up. Perhaps a husband is having massive problems in his marriage but doesn’t want to end up (for various reasons), so he decides to mingle.
So this guide is more so for the men who don’t wanna end their relationships but still wanna have extra fun.
Immoral? Maybe. But not every guy will follow that moral code.
good post man, I like it
Cool! I know you’re anti-PUA (in a sense), but it’s all good.
not anti-PUA, I admire its principles and intentions
Just throwing some jabs at you. Weren’t you the 1 who wrote that post about Roosh being the worst PUA-seduction coach or something like that?
I think roosh and his forum are anti-game. Going to a third world country to get laid is not game AT ALL, it is desperation.
I guess that’s looking for easy lays, which speaks to lack of game I guess.
Yes, and as for my other post about the anti-game part, I have minimal limiting beliefs. Issue is that PUA teaches guys who don’t have their lives together to approach. Sure that stuff MAY work for you based on you caring less or something but for most guys that stuff is clownish and shows desperation. Why not make yourself the man that women want to come to?
Makes a lot of sense Kenny. Female told me the other day that women want to feel like you chose them instead of the fact that it seemed like you settled with the first female that showed you attention. This theory I’m putting to work with some great results at the moment between two women….
It’s so powerful when you can have a woman admit those things to you. Let me know how it work out down the line (the theory).
hey Kenny P, it is really funny that women dont get what really takes place when all this is going down.
Most chicks will say she dont involve with certain guys yet they still get involve.
Like we learn in seduction 101- to never believe what a woman says when she gives advice or she will lead you wrong
I do think it is better to tell the truth. Woman all around will still talk to you. If they don’t oh well.
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Women say they want truth, but they do not, at leas not all of it.
You can date multiple women and your gf can even know it, but the moment you say and verbalize it to her it becomes major headache and drama.
Conveying things like that should be done in non verbal manner.
That when she will secretly get jealous and wet for you at the same time. But the moment you trow it in her face the hell begins.
I agree totally Bogs. And this all ties into the irrational behavior.
And non-verbals are key.
Cuz girls like to lie to themselves. Once you voice the truth and bring out what she already knew in the open, she has no choice but to accept and react to it (and bring on the hellfire, lol).
Exactly, it becomes real and she has to face it. Of course if she presses strong enough you have to come forward and tell the truth.
Also think big part of it is discretion, if guy cannot be discreet about other girls, he cannot be discreet about her either.
Wonderful point!
And that’s why I’d learned years ago from a PUA article I read that you should never talk bad about other women to a girl you’re gaming or she’ll think you’ll talk bad about her too (no discretion$.
Wow, you covered a lot here!
So I will start by saying…of course women will never admit it! LOLOLOL. They would be socially judged and looked down upon and made to feel like they have less value in social standing (especially where it ‘counts’, getting that ring one day.) Not sure if femi-nazism (lol) is completely to blame. There are some things I like about feminism, other things I don’t. But one thing I like is the right to decide to do whatever you want with your body, which includes fucking a taken/married man if you want! ; )
I will say I think a lot of things are going on when a guy is taken and a girl becomes attracted to him. Sometimes guys have extra confidence and aren’t trying so hard to impress you, and then there’s the pre-selection and the competition (as you said) and then when that guy then turns his flirting on you, the added drama and taboo of it all.
I like that you advocate telling the truth. It will not DISSUADE girls, you might even turn some on and have them seducing you! Of course there will be some that may walk away, but there will be many who won’t.
Yea this was like a long-ass post. I had to get it all out there as I was feeling the energy to write.
The greatest point you made was about confidence.
A while ago, I’d said in 1 of my articles that men who are taken have a certain glow about them that makes them less desperate and more socially confident, opposed to a man who is single (not by choice) who comes off as desperate and on the hunt for pussy (which is a turn off when average guys look this way).
So thanks for raising that point.
So many good points hear as I briefly scan thru the comments. Alot of women do want to know the truth because unfortunately their are some scabs out here that will have a married or taken man anyway! Then there are others who just don’t want no parts of that drama….**singing** YOU AINT GOTTA LIE CRAIG**
Huge part of it is how well the guy can play his hand too.
I guess you are right. And if he be honest and still gets the girl it will make his game look that much tighter!
True. And you ever dealt with a guy who was taken? And don’t frikkin like neither!
I have been involved with a taken man before and I knew upfront what the situation was…don’t get me wrong I felt guilty as sin but the pleasure was far too great to walk away but I later did and made a promise to myself I would never do something so low again! But Damn he was good and I didn’t have to be bothered with all the other drama that the main chic did…smh!
SMH you’re so wicked.
If I was to take a consensus on how many women have dealt with men who were taken before, I’d bet that 100% of women would be guilty of this.
Even unknowingly in most cases buy some know (like you did).