There seems to be a general notion among black dudes in the Seduction community that pickup techniques do not work on black girls.
Is this accurate or just hogwash (to protect our women’s integrity)?
Can black girls be gamed and seduced with the tactics, techniques and routines that we use?
Check out the video below to get my views on this.
For the naysayers, watch the PUA guru VK Vince Kelvin, game and pick up some black chics in the following hidden-cam in-field video in Hollywood, California [he uses lots of ESP routines and Cold Readings].
Myth busted!!!
What makes a PUA’s approach so different is the ballsiness, uniqueness and out-of-the box attitude, unlike the average guy who goes about it by the book, super predictable and passive (which is boring).
Here’s a great example from the PUA godfather, “Mystery”, in-field (on hidden-cam), showing what is known as “The Comfort Phase” of pickup, where he hooks the girl he’s chatting to by creating a lofty vibe. This’ how a typical conversation goes with a PUA [after the 5 minute mark].
Curious to hear what my black ladies have to say about being gamed, seduced and picked up.
Related articles:
•Using Cold Reads to unlock women’s secrets by Chase Amante of Girls Chase.com.
•Cold Reading PUA technique by Gambler, head PUA-guru instructor at PUA Training.com [London].
Every guy would want to believe that his nation’s women are somewhat more “resolute” than other women.
Women of my race are no different (on an emotional and psychological level) than any other races (Caucasians and Asians). So there’s absolutely no logical reasons to believe that they’re less seducible.
I’ve stated this before and I’ll say it agin: no fucking woman on the surface of the Earth is unseducible!
If she’d fucked before, then she’s obviously seducible.
Every girl would love to believe that she cannot be seduced, or that she’s the 1 exception to the rule.
Likewise, every guy would love to believe that the women of his nationality cannot be seduced.
This misconception has been debunked!
I’ve been able to seduce more black girls [from the U.S. to the Caribbean islands] than white girls. All via PUA shit: NLP, Embedded Commands, Canned Routines, Situational Openers, Caveman Techniques, Eye Contact Routines, K-Close Routines, ESP Routines, etc.
I can personally say that black girls go totally bonkers over Cold Readings and routines based on the Zodiac and Astrology.
Speaking of embedded commands, vince used some of the in the video on 1 of the girl that he was talking to on the street.
Kenny, lots of people wont get what you mean when you made your solid point about guys not wanting to admit their women are fuckable easy.
Roosh wrote about this some time ago and he was sayin that no guy will like if outsiders come in and fuck their women. Something to that he was saying and it makes sense.
I’m glad you can look at these things with an objective eye. You’re absolutely right about us wanting to think more highly of our own.
Coupled with the fact that guys are territorial when it comes to women.
Socialkenny P is always stirring shit and stirring the pot like a mutha. Just kidding.
You guys made some rational observations which make me now see why men praise up their own women to think that they can’t be gamed and picked up. Not quite sure if to say is insecurity.
Well, this black chick says nah. That crap wouldn’t work with me!
Typical expected answer lol!
No woman would ever admit that she can be seduced by any means possible.
I’ve never met a girl in my life who thought she could be susceptible to pickup tactics.
And the funny thing is, the girls I’d slept with over the years had all thought the same thing but obviously were wrong.
Well, I can tell you now it wouldn’t. No offence :p tbh I’d probably laugh
With women, it comes back to them saying one thing and always doing the complete opposite. Women will go on and on about the type of guys they won’t go for and still date them. Going back and forth on that is pointless. As far as the game, a lot of people think game means manipulation and deception. It’s not about any of that. The game is a lifestyle, a movement. It’s about knowing the different ins and outs of a situation and how to maneuver through that situation.
True dat. If guys go on believing what women say, we’d all be virgins to this day.
It’s always the ones who laugh who are leaving my bed the following morning. Freechick, I’ve met lots of women who talk like you do. In fact, 85% of the girls I pick up and sleep with say the same thing you say.
Sure. But you’ve never met me.
I have. In my dreams. And you were a good fuck by the way.
Race definitely plays a factor in your game a check. You can’t use the same game on every girl. The principles will always stay the same though.
“Principle will always stay the same”. Great point.
I would even take it a step further and say culture plays a role also.
Culture does play a role and where on the globe you are. There are lots of PUA’s in Israel. With the culture over there, they have a brand of pickup to match that culture (in the Israeli club scene which is huge).
And this is where “Calibration” comes in. There isn’t just 1 format and 1 approach to pickup. Our approach varies depended on the situation, girl, age, maturity level, her religion, her upbringing, etc. So we tweak our game based on these things.
Kenny you’re such a hilarious guy.
I decided to check out your stuff for the first time after seeing this link on your facebook page. I didn’t even know you a blogger until now.
And in the second video, what is it that you call it that the vince guy is doing with most of the girls? Is that cold read or what you call it? And what’s the purpose?
And I left a message on your fb page the 1 that said socialkenny seduction but doesn’t seem like you got it.
Hey SL. I didn’t go on my Facebook page in a day or 2. Just seen it now though.
I guess you thought I was posting links after links of other’s?
As for the video (2nd one), that was Cold Reads and ESP stuff VK was doing. So you’re right.
Point of it is to sort of take the girl on a psychological journey. You’re reading her on a spiritual level which builds connection and intrigues her.
Ok got it.
I’m not a black girl so this doesn’t apply to me I see. Wink wink.
I think there are strong, highly discerning women in all races. Does PUA theory suggest that a PUA can seduce ANY woman he wants to? That’s bogus. Not every woman will even appreciate your look, smell, demeanor, personality, approach, attitude, etc. Different strokes for different folks as they say.
Personally, i find cocky, arrogant, boastful, know-it-all guys to be turn-offs. Same for guys with big stomachs, bushy beards, and back rolls. Guys who get high, etc. (I could go on – slow, lack of conversation skills, etc.) So it doesnt matter WHAT your game is like. If youre a turn-off, the most you get is brief, light banter. And yes, I’m a black woman. And I “ain’t easy” as they say in the Caribbean.
Having said all that, there are also gullible and desperate (or just plain horny) women in every race.
To your point about vulnerability to seduction, everyone who likes sex can be seduced – by someone within whatever mental/physical parameters they’ve established – not just by ANY OLE BODY who runs some game.
I would love to seduce the strong type like you are. I really wish women in Japan were challenging in that way.
I dont see much to disagree with you on. Men overall should have all their shit in order before trying to game girls.
Cocky guys and stuff usually come from position of weakness.
We have a theory and tactic in the seduction community that is called cocky-funny. Its acting cocky with women, but playing it down by using humor. But raw cockiness is just a turn off for any woman.
That’s why I’m careful. Men see me as a challenge, and they’ll do what they think they need to to crack the nut so to speak, if they really want to. I’m intelligent, sensual, and more seductive than they are. But if it’s not on my time, it won’t happen.
You’re right about cockiness and weakness. Because some of those same guys come off as controlling, which also doesn’t work.
Thanks for the insight.
On your terms!!!? Now that is where skills versus will will have to come in lol!
You see, this is the beauty about men who do pickup, we give women that challenge that they rarely get from other men. Other men are willing to sellout just for a promise of a piece of ass. They’re willing to throw their mothers under the puss for a little lol.
PUA’s on the other hand, we’re taught to not sell out, to be difficult with women, challenge women, ignore women, not to chase women… We do shit that the average guy would be too shy, scared to do.
A woman loves a challenge (as you should know). We bring that challenge.
I’ll excuse you and not respond because you don’t know me.
Scared of a challenge I see.
You don’t know a real one.
Preach SocialK!
No diss to female persuasion, but you would be an ideal candidate as to why seduction is so powerful.
You are seductive by the way, and smart women, smart black women are highly susceptible to what it is we do.
And I like your face by the way too.
Thanks.
A lot of flirting going here huh?
Any flirting done on this blog will by between Ms. Persuasion and I. So back off Mr. BAM! Just saying.
Sorry
K. You and folks cracking me up.
I can co-sign and accept everything you said as logical. As much as I want to find something to jump down your throat with, I really can’t with your last comment lol. You win this round.
What??????!!!!! Its a miracle!!! Lol.
Sn: I’m having trouble responding to u by email link via phone. Takes me to ur homepage instead of directly to the post. Will respond.
Miracles do happen.
Hope you work out that issue from your phone.
OMG. Kenny called a woman logical???!!!!! It reallu is a new year. :-
Lol did I!? I probably flew over my head.
hey kenny,
When are you going to Announce the winner of the PUA Instructor of the Year Award?
@Johnny England- I was brainstorming that over the past few days, but I said that I’d wait until later this month. And I wanted to set up a podcast episode interview with the guy who wins, so that also I’m trying to organize where I can interview the winner opposed to just announcing.
I agree that that is a dumb question. When you said that in your video I literally laughed out loud cuz that’s what I was thinking!
Lol for real. But a lot of ppl thought I was gonna say it doesn’t work on black girls…until they got the ride awakening on the video