Contemplating to register with a PUA-Seduction forum in order to get your skills up, or to impart some knowledge of your own onto the less fortunate (i.e. newbies)…?
Well you may need to read this article before you do hit the ‘sign up’ button.
I’ll be giving my unapologetically crude review on which forums are worth your time, and the ones that are ran like Nazi-style concentration camps [as my man JTR would say; these fucking Nazi mods].
Firstly, my reviews (good or bad) aren’t based on the size of the forums [some are huge, some small and local].
I’m a member of various PUA forums- large and small, old and new. So I’m well qualified to speak on this shit and give a balanced review.
•RSD Nation Forum •The Attraction Forum (Love Systems) •PUA Hate
•The Pickup Artist Forum
Over at The Seduction Chronicle blog, the admin author made an observation that was spot on about certain forums:
“Forums such as RSD Nation and The Attraction Forums are similarly large but suffer from censorship and moderation that is skewed to support the respective companies ( Real Social Dynamics and Love Systems)”.
I couldn’t have said it better!
•The Attraction Forum (by Love Systems):
Attraction Forums by Love Systems
Despite the bullshit, I’m cool with the master-PUA coach, Savoy [president of the Love Systems company].
I actually did some work for them [Love Systems] about 2 years ago, along with Gil Rio, who’s an LS coach out of Brazil. Gil and I translated the fame PUA books: The Mystery Method and Magic Bullets, from English into Portuguese and Spanish [since Savoy wanted to expand into the South-American region].
So Savoy and I have history, and are pretty much cool. But it’s the fucking moderators over @ the attraction forum to be blamed for the strict policies and enforcements which are bad for the forum.
This forum also has major log-in issue, where you’re not able to successfully log in for days on end [I haven't been able to sign in over a year- for real]!!
•RSD Nation Forum:
Those faggots @ RSD Forum had closed my account about a month ago.
I signed up about a month ago. After a week of posting My PUA in-field videos and interacting on others’ posts, I noticed I wasn’t able to sign in anymore, so I contacted them as to my log-in issue.
Lo and fucking behold! An e-mail came through from an RSD forum moderator (I suppose) :
“You’re account has been blocked and suspended. You are obviously promoting your products and have a personal gain and agenda as to why you’re posting your content on the forum…”
Basically, the faggot moderator was trying to insinuate that posting of my videos on the forum was for promotional or financial purposes, and that is not allowed [which obviously wasn't the case].
Bullshit!!!
Videos are ALLOWED to be posted on forums LOL! That’s the purpose of having a video-embed link in the first fucking place!
But what they didn’t want to say, is that if you’re not posting and promoting Real Social Dynamics products- then you can’t post any videos at all.
That would obviously send red flags flying as to the blatant-discriminatory practices (which would turn off possible registrants).
I highly doubt that RSD Tyler [Master PUA guru and owner of RSD] would be the one orchestrating such fowl play.
Their gripe and need to ban me was solely because my Youtube videos (tutorials and in-field) were becoming hits via RSD forum.
My posts (videos included) on their forum were generating like 20 replies per day. I was becoming too popular, so they shut down my account within a week of being on the forum.
It’s unfortunate, ’cause I’m cool with RSD Julien and RSD Alex.
•The Pickup Artist Forum: Probably the most active forum in the community (with the most members).
I’ve been a member of this forum since the beginning of 2008 (on which I’m a forum leader).
Great forum by the way, in that one has no issues when it comes to posting videos and links.
But!!
I’ve got into fights with a number of moderators over there; In particular Hobbit & Chief PUA, who comes across as a jealous chode since he’s always jumping down my throat about strict-forum rules like a Nazi mod’.
Just yesterday, I received a pm (private message) from Chief saying that he’s giving me a final warning for violating forum rules because I’d recommended my free e-book to some newbies who were inquiring about useful-pickup books.
So he’s threatening to ban me from the pick-up artist forum if I post another link to my free e-book.
I sent him a nice-warm message saying: “Fuck you faggit! You can ban me all you want clown. I’ll start my own forum you jealous prick”!
After that message, I probably did get ban. But fuck it LOL!!!
Those clown moderators at pickup artist forum went on a witch-hunt to suppress my name, growth and products.
This sort of mockery and jealousy-trip can happen to you. So I don’t advise anyone to sign up to that forum, unless you’re content with getting virtually bitched slapped by the likes of Chief PUA, who salivates at the thought of banning members unjustly.
Despite being an active member of that forum since early 2008, with virtually over 2,000 posts, helping the average guy with his dating life…I’m a proud guy who’s willing to risk being banned and deleted than to be chumped by pussy moderators as if I’m a newbie.
•PUA Hate: the name speaks for itself.
These clowns are very suppressing, strict and ruthless when it comes to content and what you can and cannot post.
In spite of the name (PUA Hate) and its knack for spewing propaganda on other PUA’s, this forum has featured some top PUA coaches in the game over the years (some however post as anonymous).
I’ve only been a member of this forum less than 6 months now. Surprisingly; they showed me mad love because I’d called out seduction guru, Aaron Sleazy out of Germany, who’s hated on that forum.
However, 2 days ago, I got a pm (private message) from 1 of their Nazi moderators saying I was banned for violating forum rules…which is bullshit!
These guys banned me and closed my account because I was able to tool the shit out of their moderators (on the subject of Game), and I was able to gain some notoriety there.
If it’s 1 theme that these fucking PUA-forum moderators subscribe to, is to keep you from getting too large.
The moment that you’re gaining a name in the seduction community via their forums, and it’s not to their interest; you will be friggin’ suppressed, banned and shut the fuck down…which is unfortunate, bias and defeats the purpose of having a forum.
Aaah, there is light at the end of the tunnel! It’s not all bad when it comes to seduction forums. Some of the following forums I’m a member/poster of, so I can personally say that their moderators are cool as a MOFO! And you won’t be bombarded with warning messages over petty bullshit like mistakenly posting in the wrong section. •Phase-Shift Lounge [Kings Of Pickup] •Casanova Crew [JTR] •Justin Wayne Dating Forum •Post Masculine [Mark Manson] •RooshV Forum
•PUA Forums
•PUA Forums: With research, I’ve yet to come up with any negative reviews on these guys and the way they operate their forum. Seduction guru Bill Preston gets 2 thumbs up for this.
I may have to sign up shortly.
•Phase Shift Lounge: owned by my man Speer, the Israeli-master-PUA dating coach out of Miami.
I’ve been a member here for some months now without an iota of static, bullying or suppression.
I freely post my pick-up videos and insights on seduction, and the guys are interactive too.
You can virtually get one-on-one coaching here, as top PUA coaches like VK Vince Kelvin, Speer, Redman PUA, Maven, etc. are all regular posters and always active on this forum.
Signing up is highly recommended!
•Casanova Crew Forum: I’m not just recommending this forum because JTR is my brotha from anotha motha!
I’ve been active on this forum for under a year now. It’s active, interactive, and your inquiries (posts) will not go unanswered.
Neither will you be blasted left and right with warnings and violation notices even when you’re not violating shit.
They do have a no-troll tolerance; but trolling activities should be banned anyway.
As for posting videos and such, I regularly post and embed my Youtube pickup vidoes on Casanova Crew Forum without issues.
JTR and these guys aren’t concerned with “keeping the man down”, as those pricks over @ pickup artist forum.
Therefore, it’d be a good choice to register on this forum.
•Justin Wayne Dating Forum: I’d registered with this forum the other day (less than a month). I was personally invited to join actually by Justin Wayne PUA himself, so that says a whole lot as to the integrity and character of the individual(s) you’ll be interacting with on his forum.
Strangely though, I’m unable to log in for the past few weeks, and I’m having issues resetting my password to a new one. Seems like a glitch in the sign-in field.
Apart from that, the forum is pretty-much brand new yet active. And you’ll be respected and given leniency for minor mistakes [although I've never violated even unintentionally].
•Post Masculine aka Practical Pickup Forum: I’m not a member of this forum (yet), but I’ve only heard good reviews so far about the way Mark Postmasculine [formerly known as Entropy PUA] runs this forum.
•RooshV Forum: My nemesis Roosh! No love loss since I’ve been feuding with him over the past 7 months.
Roosh, the Turkish seducer, has always been a lenient and tolerant guy [sounds contradicting from my previous stance].
He hardly censors or bans anything…even trolling on his blog posts.
Because of my prior differences with Roosh, I never bothered signing onto his forum. But I recommend it though, being that his forum gets solid reviews, opposed to a gung-ho, shut-you-down approach towards its members.
There you have it folks!
The good, the bad and the fucking ugly… in terms of PUA/Seduction forums.
Wanna learn some quick game for the holiday on into the New Year?
Then sign up on the recommended-seduction forums, and shit on the ones which operate like Hitler on steroids!
Other recommended PUA forums with a decent reputation:
•Beyond Pickup (The Philippines
Or go to the post: Vote your favorite PUA coach 2012
I can’t speak for other forums you talk about, but The Attraction Forums is not censored. You will find negative reviews of Love Systems there. I don’t know what you mean about not being able to log in for a year – email us about that and I’m sure it’s fixable. Unlike some of the other outfits you mentioned, Love Systems is still being run by dating coaches (former students) and hasn’t sold out to internet marketers. The positive side is we care about our clients. The negative side is we aren’t always the best at IT or technical stuff!
Hey Savoy, I was merely quoting the guy from seduction Chronicle as to his take on the attraction forums. My main problem with it was that I wasn’t and still not able to log in in over a year.
As far as moderators there, if that is the case that the forum is censored and such, then that is a bad thing, but I personally haven’t experienced that since I wasn’t able to log in. My account info isn’t accepted. I believed that I requested a password change but got discouraged in the process.
If I’m correct, doesn’t LS Fader post regularly on there? I don’t believe that he has a blog, so he utilizes the Attraction Forum as a quasi blog. My point is, I believe Fader interacts regularly there.
your articles keep getting better, I need to work on my blogging skills to catch up bro. Keep it up!
Lol you’re light years ahead of me JW. And the issue was resolved with the log in problems I was having on your forum.
Nick I think your forum is great but it most definitely is SUPER censored and made specifically to make LS look better. It’s all good. I respect your business model but lets be real. I also agree that there are alot of forums out there who are not run by any coaches at all. I must say Phase Shift Lounge is and has always had instructors, coaches and students posting. Plus there is ALWAYS a Q&A with a certified KOP instructor. Where you can get your questions answered. Plus no marketing AT ALL! NO banners, not even internally. Its free, fun and filled with great content.
Kenny thanks, and glad you like the forum!
It’s all good I guess. As I was saying, I haven’t been able to log in to attraction forum, and never got to post at all, so I personally can’t speak to the censor part and marketing. I was basically quoting other dudes.
Savoy claims that LS coaches and past students are active on the forum, so I really don’t know how to take that. But I can say for sure that the Phase Shift has instructors interacting constantly.
Thanks for the mention maaaan!
No prob!
I am on the attraction forums by love systems and I have no such problems with any guy, mod or stuff like that. I couldn’t concur with the sentiments by kenny neither that guy in anonymity at seduction chronicle.
Giacomo.
Giacomo you’re not giving reviews or taking about bad teaching incidents or disagreeing with an instructor, so you have no reason to be censored.
Guys who are censore are ones who have bad experiences and may just want to share it.
Excuse me, and who is to say that I didnt have bad experiences and posted them to LS forum?
Not that I have, but I just don’t see what is being spoken of here.
Hey Socialkenny, why isn’t Venusian Arts on this list of forums?
Some of those forums don’t deserve to be on here to be honest.
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/
I don’t know how you forgot this site.
Damn I knew I forgot to add a forum but I couldn’t remember which forum.
I’m not on VA forum, but had I remembered, I would add them but I’m not quite sure if that would’ve been in the good or not so good category
I’m not sure about this anyone, but doesn’t Neil Sterauss have a forum? But I don’t think it is under the name stylelife academy. I could be wrong$
And Kenny, you left out a portion of good forums like beyond pickup by Marco Lee and I want to think that abc’s of attraction has a forum too maybe not under the same title as the site.
And why isn’t anyone addressing those fucking assholes at pua hate who are always spewing dirt on everyone?
That bitch Nikhlaus or whatever his name is is known for censoring even other top members of that forum.
I hate those dudes apart from the blatant stuff they engage in.
Thanks for the mentions! Good for SEO or something, probably
Would you mind changing my links to just my site chiefpua.com instead of linking directly to my latest post, though?
Lol Chief being mischievous huh? Well I guess any publicity is good publicity, plus good for SEO I heard too.
I’ll change the links. Despite our love hate relationship on the forum, it’s still all good.
All those forums belong to commercial companies, was hoping to see some free ones as well like pua-zone
Overall good honest reviews.
All those forums are free, although they’re commercial.
And thanks for reminding me of PUA Zone. I forgot to add that and Venusian Arts.
Since you’ve been on PUA Zone, how do you rate that forum Bogs?
@Bogs PUA- I’m gonna actually update this article review by adding some other forums to the list of decent ones at the end of the post. So thanks for reminding me in a way.
Hey, SK! Just letting you know that if you begin your own forum, I will promote the hell out of it for you. Happiness to all forums except ones you hate! ~ Vici.
Thanks Vici. You’ll be like my #1 promoter in the community.
Just the other day, someone was asking my why don’t I open a forum. I never really gave it a thought. But I’ve been fiddling with the idea last night. It’s very time-consuming I know.
BTW, you’re on the MPUA forum I notice.
I know it’s a closed one but the LSS is awesome in my opinion. London based, some people who really know their stuff.
Some of the forums on my list are UK based too: PUA Forums in particular.
I’ll check out the LLS site you just mentioned.
Thanks for stopping by. I’d subscribed to your blog. Feel free to do the same!
I notice you’re a Krauser fan too.
Krauser’s fun, actually their whole house is. They were the first introduction into the whole thing.
I just signed up. Awaiting approval now. I like UK PUA’s. Their style is good.
As for Krauser, he and Steve Jabba are cool as hell! Good to see that he was your intro.
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P.S. I like the LSS site. Thanks for the link. The forum seems free in the sense that they aren’t quick to censor you for bullshit or no reason.
How come most of your suggested forums are ones you haven’t signed up on?
I can’t believe the bitchery that goes on in these ‘alpha manly’ communities. *laughs*
Well the ones I have signed onto happened to be problematic. Ones I haven’t signed onto seems to have good rep.
As for bitchery, I’d prefer to say hating.
We need more chic coaches in the community though. I’m gonna have to recruit you as a female pickup coach.
Ha ha! I will check out some forums and look into PUA community a bit more.
That’d be good. We only have a handful of chic instructors in this (on the writing side of it). Plus your videos would be great as pickup tutorials for men. Most of what you advise is almost seduction shit anyway.
lol @Speer – yeah, your army of spammy interns has been banned several times. There’s no actual censorship of anything other than spam. This is obvious from the fact that can see negative reviews there. Kind of lame to take that shot without any evidence but whatever, cheers.
I gotta agree with you on this Savoy ( as far as the filtering goes of spams). That is pretty much automated. And spamming should be banned and censored.
As I said before Savoy, my only prob’ with the Attraction Forum was my login issues that kept me out for over a year. I was so discouraged that I never bothered to change password.
But I personally don’t know about censorship as the guy from Seduction Chronicle was claiming. I was quoting him, but mainly singling out RSD.
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hahahahaha,
I got banned from Rooshie poohs site and I ain’t even a PUA….
I posted under a troll handle and made fun of him…
He finally had the last straw when I said, “When I’m on a food vacation and your on a sex vacation, maybe our paths will cross. Mr. Roosh, you can show me how to be creepy while I east a crepe.”
Now, if I try to go over there, it’ll say “connection timed out.”
hehe, I guess I pissed off the love terrorist….
Lol hilarious Stoner! Roosh blocked me on Twitter a while ago because I said his forum isn’t that active compared to PUA forums. What a reason to ban someone. I guess Roosh doesn’t take light to criticism and ppl who may question him.
Well, maybe he’ll lift the ban soon.
…that’s eat not east…
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